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Alan Clark
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Initially Posted - 03/01/2005 : 15:23:42

I will probably get LOTS of responses but I am going to get my hull lightly deoxidized and professionally waxed

, I asked the detailer-He does cars and a boat or two- about what wax he uses and he gave me a name about wax for fiberglass motorhomes (Does that also)! I mentioned Meguirs Boat wax-he says goes on too hard,I thought about 3M marine wax and also west marine wax with teflon- Our boat is in freshwater all summer and We deoxidized the hull last year with a light rubbing compound. We obviously want the shine to last so we are looking for recommendations to have that AWESOME SHINE

. All comments are appreciated. With "Leprechaun" still on the hard

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Alan & Eileen
2001 Catalina 310 Hull #155
"Anam Cara"
ex-1987 C25 TR/SK #5612
"LEPRECHAUN"
Troy Ohio USA / Lake Erie-Catawba Island
ASA 101 103 104

"The clink of an anchor - chain, the 'Yo-Ho!' of a well time crew, the flapping of huge sails - I love all these sounds."

John 'Rob Roy' MacGregor

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 03/01/2005 : 15:51:44

>> "Meguirs Boat wax-he says goes on too hard,"
Hmmm... I found it quite easy to use... However, 3M Marine wax took some serious effort.

If you really want a lasting shine, use a polymer 'wax' (it's not really a true wax but a chemical treatment that bonds to the surface and hardens, much like 'mop-n-glo' does on a floor).

Zaino and Zymol are common polymer finishes that come to mind that are widely used on cars... there's a marine product recommended on this board often whos name simply escapes me right now (darn)... I'm sure somebody will toss it out in a post.

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John Mason
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Response Posted - 03/01/2005 : 19:20:55

I used the Vert-Glas system (similar to the Poly raz-ma-taz -Glo or something). It went on easy and looked fantastic. But (there's always a but), after a season, any treated surface that had any kind of contact with anything else-fenders, shoes, arms, legs, fabric, etc., etc. the stuff began to turn black and peel off. So now I have to use the Vert-Glas remover and redo those areas. We'll see how that turns out later this Spring.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/01/2005 : 20:07:18

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by John Mason
 I used the Vert-Glas the stuff began to turn black and peel off. So now I have to use the Vert-Glas remover and redo those areas. We'll see how that turns out later this Spring.
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I had a big black streak from losing an argument with a cross wind coming into a slip. I think I just soft scrubbed it and redid the hull before I put back in for the season, no biggy. I did not have peeling.

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John Mason
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Response Posted - 03/02/2005 : 13:05:53

Thanks for the encouraging words Frank! I haven't attempted any kind of fix yet, so I didn't have any idea what I was in for.

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Response Posted - 03/02/2005 : 19:28:34

I used polly glow it worked great last year my neighbor asked if I painted it when I pulled in the first time. My brother in law waxed his and it did't hold up I look great when I puled it in the fall just needed to be cleaned and one more coat very happy with this product.easy to apply also.

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Alan Clark
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Response Posted - 03/03/2005 : 10:28:56

CJB, I spoke with a friend who stated that he has used Diamond wax ? apparently this is used by Auto shops.. Can you tell me where you buy Poly Glow and what kind of wax is that, polymer?, etc?. Thanks for the responses. With "Leprechaun" on the hard..

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megrier
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Response Posted - 03/03/2005 : 10:57:00

Here is the web site for Ploi Glow.

www.poliglowproducts.com

I really had good luck with it also last summer. Just needs a touch up before going back into the water this spring.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/03/2005 : 12:01:08

lovettmarine.com for VertGlass

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At Ease
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Response Posted - 03/03/2005 : 20:37:40

Here is the straight skinny from Practical Sailor November 15, 2004:

Best: Collinite #885

2nd: Meguiar's Mirror Glaze

3rd: 3M Ultra Performance

Others rated as 'good':

Turtle Wax 2000

Boat Life Wax

Star Bright Presoftened

Star Bright Polish with Teflon]

West Marine Carnauba

NOTE: All the above are paste waxes.

Two non paste waxes did well:

Poly Glow Liquid and WM Teflon Boat Polish...PS noted that some liquid plastics discolor and deteriorate and are hard to remove.

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Response Posted - 03/03/2005 : 20:59:05

As a brief follow up to the earlier post. PS tested 28 waxes. The ones above were specifically mentioned as being in the category listed...and they much preferred paste over liquid.

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Alan Clark
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Response Posted - 03/04/2005 : 09:37:50

Bert, Thanks for the very appreciated information, I spoke with the detailer again last night, He spoke about using a product called Gel Gloss that he says he uses on Fiberglas motor homes etc.I amgoing to do a google on that to see what I can find out and will let you know. Alan

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Alan Clark
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Response Posted - 03/04/2005 : 10:00:19

The Product Gel Gloss is listed as an "Ecology safe cleaner and polish combines petroleum distillate with rich carnauba wax and penetrating silicones to clean seal and protect. Penetrating silicones lift out dirt, shine, seal and protect finish. Use on fiberglass tubs,showers,furniture,boats,marble,stainless steel,chrome and porcelain. Any thoughts? Alan

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John G-
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Response Posted - 03/04/2005 : 10:04:31

I’ve been using Fleetwax (Collinite #885) for about 4 years. It gives a great shine and a very hard surface but make no mistake it is a pain to apply. I can only do about 18” – 24” of the hull at a time before moving on and I do two coats. The trick is to remove it before it hardens. Rub it on and immediately wipe it off with a soft cloth, there is no time to get a buffer on it so it is all hand work. The buffer is not important anyway, the shine will be there when wax is rubbed off.
The whole routine includes a good washing, a light rubbing compound to cut the old wax and remove any oxidation, I use a buffer for this, and two coats of the Fleetwax.

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