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existentialsailor
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Initially Posted - 03/05/2005 : 05:18:20

How is your gas line routed to the outboard for those of you who have outboards. I'm less than thrilled with the arrangement I inherited which is the gas tank is in one of the lockers with the the gas line running out the lid through a scupper to the outboard. Besides being a trip hazard and unsightly, if anyone sits on the locker lid while motoring, it chokes the line and subsequently the motor stalls. Obviously, this is not how it was meant to be set up as the lid can't be closed tight while the line is there and there is no provision for the line.
I'm thinking of installing a fitting as high up on the transom as I can, but where it will come through inside the locker.
How do they do it on the Catalina 25's? (Or the 250's for that matter if they aren't all inboards).
Thanks very much.

Rick

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 03/05/2005 : 05:57:08

Rick,

For those of us who have gas lockers - mines an '88 TR with a locker on the port side, there is a notch in the lid at deck level to allow the fuel line to be run out and over or through the transom.

As far as I know, we have had only one of our members convert to an internal, below-decks, fuel tank, which was installed in the bottom of the lazaret. You should be able to find the info doing a file search.

Al
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/05/2005 : 07:42:02

The Capri 25 was designed as a racer. It is assumed a boat like that removes its OB while racing and puts it down below at the foot of the mast. They are very easily driven by a 4-6 horse engine. Those usually have internal fuel tanks that are good for most situations. Has your PO provided you with a non-typical Capri 25 OB? If so then you may want to re-power.

This guy seems to have a regular gas line. that is lead through the transom just starboard and above his motor mount.

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tinob
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Response Posted - 03/05/2005 : 08:15:41

Rick,

My '83 is configured as Al mentioned. The change to a line running below decks ,while neater, runs the risk of gas leaks below decks. Gas vapors, being heavier than air, are want to find their way into the bilge, not a good thing I'm sure you realize.

In your instance ridding yourself of the hazard of a pinched fuel line can be overcome by cutting an opening in the base of the fuel locker cover. A far better conversion than passing the line below decks IMHO.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/05/2005 : 10:38:20

My gas line goes through a nylon thru-hull that is mounted high up on the transom next to the port side motor mount.

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 03/05/2005 : 10:57:00

<font color="blue"> My gas line goes through a nylon thru-hull that is mounted high up on the transom next to the port side motor mount. - Don</font id="blue">

That is exactly how I routed my fuel line. The PO ran the fuel line out of the top of the lazarette, and there isn't a notch in the lid ... 'don't know how he kept from crimping the fuel line. Anyway, now it looks like this (very similar to the photo of the Capri 25 that Frank posted above):

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 03/05/2005 : 10:57:49

Rick,

I installed a built in 12gal fuel tank. I have used both the fuel line routing solutions described above by Val, Don, and Buzz. (In the case of the cockpit locker opening, I notched the aft lip of the locker, not the lid.) both worked fine.

-- Leon Sisson

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/05/2005 : 12:45:15

My gas line is mounted just like Buzz's with the thru hull height allowing the line to enter directly into the port lazarette where the fuel tank resides.

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 03/05/2005 : 14:22:40

My tank sits on the shelf inside the port locker. There is an air vent above the locker which I route the fuel hose through. When I am done I pull the hose back into the locker. It keeps the UV rays from deteriorating the hose when its not in use. At least I hope it does. I believe it is the same vent at the very top of Buzz's picture. There doesn't appear to be one on the Capri.

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ronrryan
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Response Posted - 03/05/2005 : 20:41:41

Orion has the gas tank in the port cockpit locker, engine to port. The locker is not open to the bilge, and fumes can exit at the bottom of the lid/seat and out the cockpit drains, supposedly. The passage through the transom for the fuel line has a rubber grommet, the fumes would have to come UP the transom, into the grommet, in between the two parts of the transom and liner. Possible, I guess, but a lot of work for Mr Fume. I will put that at the end of THE LIST. which makes Mr Fume pretty safe, regards, ron #2343 Orion SW FL

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/06/2005 : 18:49:22

Rick,
I went to the club today and looked at the Capri transom pictured above. They just drilled a hole the same size as the fuel line od and put a little caulk around it. I assume that location leads somewhere convenient inside. As I recall you have a cockpit sole mounted tiller so yo cannot put a tank against the transom, is that right?

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Ericson33
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Response Posted - 03/06/2005 : 19:30:09

On my Capri 25 I just have the Mecury Marineer 4 hp Outboard with the tank on top. I also have the option of having a gas line run to a external tank, But as long as I have had the moter I just carry an extra gas tank. fill her up, put the tank in the locker and off I go. While racing its very important to taking off the moter because of weight aft going down wind. All weight should be in the center of the boat as low as possible. If your moter does not have a tank built in I would just go thru the transom with the line. you might shield the line with a piece of nylon or pvc to keep it from chaffing. You might even mount a quick connect valve in the transom, then all you do is plug and pray, I mean play.

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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 03/06/2005 : 19:40:37

The tiller isn't what's in the way, the backstay adjuster mounts to the sole 3 inches in front of the transom.

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