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John J.
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Initially Posted - 03/12/2005 :  12:35:16  Show Profile
I just recv'd my FF4 from CDI. In the instructions, they require both ends of the forestay to have a toggle, however, mine only has the toggle at the bottom. They also require a turnbuckle with cotter pins, ( mine has lock nuts ). I suppose many of you have run into this. Do you have a new forestay made? If so, where?
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Dave Laux
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Response Posted - 03/12/2005 :  16:31:08  Show Profile
If you have two pins at 90 degrees at the mast head you have a toggle there, it just doesn't look like it. If you have or can borrow a drill press just get an open TB body( probably 5/16 thread) with the right threads and cross drill your threaded parts.
If you really have to have a new one Fawcetts in Anapolis Md. can do it but you probably don't need one. Dave
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/12/2005 :  17:22:23  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Congratulations on your new furler, that is a biggy! You are of course describing the stock turnbuckle and probably stock forestay. You are about to commit the forestay to the dark impenetrable insides of the furler extrusion. I personally would not consider doing that with a 25 year old forestay. Forestays are cheap, buy a new one with an open turnbuckle. CD makes great rigging.
In fact I would have bought the furler and forestay as a unit so the lengths were perfect for each other. It is way more important to buy them as a unit with the Harken but I think its a good idea for all of them.
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atgep
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Response Posted - 03/12/2005 :  18:16:51  Show Profile
A little off topic but how does the wire come out of the Harken foil. That is one thing I have not inspected on my "New to me" boat.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/12/2005 :  21:16:49  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
On a Harken Furler the forestay must be run through the extrusion before the threaded end is swaged on. Harken instructions ALWAYA say "headstay must be cut" so it is nice to just have then assembled as a unit buy the place you buy the Harken from, like CD.
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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 03/13/2005 :  06:23:10  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
I have just ordered a Schaeffer Snap Furl from North sails. They asked for my forestay to preassemble the stay and extrusion for me.... "so it fits just right". The sevice was free.

I helped a buddy install a CDI furler on his C&C Redwing. With the open turnbuckles removed, the stay just slid into the extrusion. The hardest part about the whole installation was measuring the extrusion and cutting it to match the forstay, and figuring out how to role the line onto the drum so it works in concert with the sheets - sheets pull the sail out, line rolls it up. Simple!

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<br />I have just ordered a Schaeffer Snap Furl from North sails. They asked for my forestay to preassemble the stay and extrusion for me.... "so it fits just right". The sevice was free.

I helped a buddy install a CDI furler on his C&C Redwing. With the open turnbuckles removed, the stay just slid into the extrusion. The hardest part about the whole installation was measuring the extrusion and cutting it to match the forstay, and figuring out how to role the line onto the drum so it works in concert with the sheets - sheets pull the sail out, line rolls it up. Simple!


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Right! The CDI is great for that. My point to John is that a new forestay is a good idea for everyone installing a new furler.
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Scotd
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Response Posted - 04/06/2005 :  22:43:17  Show Profile  Visit Scotd's Homepage
John what did you find out about your CDI Furler and forestay? Did you measure your forestay yet? Did you cut your furler yet? If so what were your measurements? I called and talked to someone at CDI and if the forestay does not have the holes for the cotter pins, well they want you to get them, I had to with mine too.
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John J.
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Response Posted - 04/07/2005 :  04:44:11  Show Profile
Scot,I also called CDI and talked with who I believed to be the owner, and ended up buying a new forestay. I haven't cut the furler yet, probably next week. It seems like a pretty easy install, how did your's go?
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Scotd
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Response Posted - 04/07/2005 :  12:01:12  Show Profile  Visit Scotd's Homepage
John I have not cut mine either! The owner at CDI told me to adjust the turnbuckle about half way and then measure the forestay. I know it should be done with the forestay on the boat and adjusted with the mast in the proper position. I don't know how critical a couple of inches are then cutting the furler? If all else fails it looks like I will have to find a level spot for my trailer, level the boat and put up the mast. Adjust the forestay to the correct lenght. Take down the mast and measure the forestay.
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John J.
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Response Posted - 04/07/2005 :  12:37:46  Show Profile
Scot, I plan on using the old forestay for measuring. Even if I'm off by a little, I don't think it could be more than an inch, and I don't see that being critical.If my memory serves me, (which it often doesn't),you can make a bunch of rotations with the turnbuckle and it moves very little in length.
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