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dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/05/2002 : 19:27:42

Dave,

I can't take credit for the statement, "the mast should be raked 8" back". That came from the tuning guide for the Catalina 22 from the NorthSails website.

Don Lucier, Northstar
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 04/05/2002 : 21:42:05

Dave,

If your boat has a two-finger weather helm in 15 kts wind, it is tuned pretty well, regardless of whether you are a racer or a cruiser. If your boat performs the way you expect it to, and is safe and comfortable for you to sail, then there’s no reason to mess with it. Some of us who like to race micro-analyze every adjustment on our boats, in a frenzied search for an additional 0.003 kt of speed, so that, at the end of the sailing season, we can take a little etched highball glass home from the awards banquet. After you receive your first etched highball glass, you get hooked, as if you are on drugs. You just have to have another, and another, and another…Come to think of it, we racers are a pretty pathetic lot.

Steve Milby "Captiva Wind" C-25 T/FK #2554

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Bristle
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Response Posted - 04/05/2002 : 23:09:52

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Come to think of it, we racers are a pretty pathetic lot.
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Steve:

I've crewed with racers, and have been struck by what seemed to me to be a total disinterest in relaxing on a sailboat (they turn and race to the docks when the race is over--jump off, haul their boats, wax the bottoms...), and in one case a disregard for human life (overpowered on a rainy night in heavy seas with dead batteries that meant no lights or any way to even start the engine).

But I know that's not you..... <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 SR-FK #5032 "Passage" in CT

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 04/06/2002 : 10:28:06

Dave,

You’re right. I’m not like those other racers. I keep my racing in perspective, and have a proper regard for human life. For example, if my college student son fell overboard during a race, I’d throw him a life ring and come back to get him after the race was over.

That reminds me, when my son was a toddler, I kept him in a harness that was tethered to a lifeline stanchion while we were sailing. One day, we were rounding up to cross the line at the start of a race, and, just seconds before the starting horn, my son tumbled over the cockpit coaming and into the water. With one hand, I reached down and grabbed the tether line and pulled him up into the cockpit, like a little tuna. We hardened up the sails for a beat, crossed the line, and, all things considered, had a pretty good start.

When you get older and more experienced, you get smarter. Once, I was crewing for a friend on his Capri 25. He tacked the boat, and I was grinding the leeward jibsheet winch. As the wind filled the sails on the new tack, the boat heeled suddenly, just as I was pulling the winch handle toward me with both hands. I lost my balance and pulled myself, headfirst, between the cockpit coaming and the lifeline, and had the presence of mind to take his $65.00 chrome plated winch handle with me, to ensure that he would come back to get me.

Among the many things I like about sailing is that it provides relaxation when I want to relax, adventure when I feel adventurous, excitement when I yearn for excitement, and intellectual challenge when I want to exercise my brain, and all that takes place in a naturally beautiful setting. Sometimes I sail to relax, and sometimes I sail for the exhilaration. For example, I often go out and make the boat heel excessively, even though I know that isn’t fast, just because it’s fun and exciting to heel and to feel the spray from the bow. To be an enthusiastic racer, you have to love competition, and, being an old prosecuting attorney and trial lawyer, I live, eat and breathe competition, but to some people, that is a complete turn-off. Sailing has so much to offer that you don’t have to do it all to get immense joy from your boat. But, I’m not telling you anything you don’t already know.

Happy sailing!

Steve Milby "Captiva Wind" C-25 T/FK #2554

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 04/06/2002 : 11:21:43

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When you get older and more experienced, you get smarter. Once, I was crewing for a friend on his Capri 25. He tacked the boat, and I was grinding the leeward jibsheet winch. As the wind filled the sails on the new tack, the boat heeled suddenly, just as I was pulling the winch handle toward me with both hands. I lost my balance and pulled myself, headfirst, between the cockpit coaming and the lifeline, and had the presence of mind to take his $65.00 chrome plated winch handle with me, to ensure that he would come back to get me.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Steve! 'Quick thinking! Now there is a tactic worth remembering!

Buzz Maring, C-25 SK/SR #68, "Freya"

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Bristle
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Response Posted - 04/06/2002 : 18:40:31

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For example, if my college student son fell overboard during a race, I’d throw him a life ring and come back to get him after the race was over.
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Steve: I like your perspective!

Have a great season!

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 SR-FK #5032 "Passage" in CT

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 04/07/2002 : 14:48:48

"For example, if my college student son fell overboard during a race, I’d throw him a life ring and come back to get him after the race was over."
Steve - of course you know that you would be DSQ'd <img src=icon_smile_8ball.gif border=0 align=middle> You have to finish a race with the same number of bodies with which you started.
Derek
P.S. Don't you hate it when your priorities get confused...

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OJ
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Response Posted - 04/08/2002 : 09:26:18

I am getting older and more experienced but I'm still waiting for that smarter to kick-in . . .

Steve Madsen
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/08/2002 : 09:33:09

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>...but I'm still waiting for that smarter to kick-in . . . <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

So are we?<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Don Lucier, Northstar
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ltenny
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Response Posted - 04/08/2002 : 17:24:46

Here's a link to a good article on rig tensioning for the 27, which I think would apply very well to the 25 as well.

Can't vouch for it personally - I got sidetracked a third of the way thru, after #5 ("have a beer, the mast is centered and straight!")...

http://www.c34.org/projects/projects-rig-tuning.html

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