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Alan Therrien
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Initially Posted - 04/01/2005 :  08:19:29  Show Profile
I have a 250 wing keel, and have not previously raised my own mast. I plan to construct the A Fame seen peviously on this site, by connecting two eight foot long 2"x4"s with a door hinge. I purchased a 1500 lb winch, with a strap and hook. I will bolt the winch to one of the 2x4s. My questions are:

1. How do you lash the bottom ends of the 2x4s to the mid ship stantions?

2. Do you pad the ends of the 2x4s to prevent scratching the deck? Or, do you make cut outs in the ends of the 2x4s to fit around the stantion?

3. Do you also use baby stays, with the A Frame? My boat did not come with baby stays.

4. Should the winch be attached to the same leg of the A Frame as the line you attach to the stem fitting ?

5. Are there any "tricks" that I should know about, either for raising the mast, or using the A Frame to do so?

Thanks for your suggestions, comments and experience.
Alan Therrien
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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 04/01/2005 :  13:29:24  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
Alan,

I'm going to build an A-frame this season after using the gin pole the last three years. I plan on anchoring the bottom ends to the chain plates using turn buckles. This way they will be firmly attached, can swivel, and won't mar the boat. Since there is a two foot difference in height between the deck and cabin top, I'm going to use 2x4x10's instead of eight footers.

I'm not sure how I am going to attache the lifting lines to the A-frame yet. I would think that they need to be attached so that they pull with each other as one continuous line - to avoid twisting and binding.

I can't answer your question regarding baby stays. I know how they are used as part of the running rigging, but can't picture they're use with the A-frame.

Al
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Turk
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Response Posted - 04/01/2005 :  19:05:36  Show Profile  Visit Turk's Homepage
Here is my website that might be of some help. I chose to use the main vang pulley and a movable "A" frame. The "A" frame is 1" aluminium tubing (the cross brace is important) inserted into a 1 foot piece of stainless steel tubing at the wooden bases. Works very well.

Get the baby stays from catalina ($59 I understand) as they really work well. I have a 250 also with the mast raising system on the trailer.

Here is the link:

www.elmhurstprop.com/mastraise

Turk
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Alan Therrien
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Response Posted - 04/02/2005 :  16:27:49  Show Profile
Al & Turk,

Thanks for your thoughts and experiences. Turk - Great web site! I see you use the moving A-frame. Sort of a combination A-frame and gin pole. I was considering the stationary A-frame that was pictured in an earlier posting here. The stationary version has a winch attached to the A-frame that is used to pull up the mast, and theoretically reduces sway.

I'm definitely envious of that garage you have. It must be a great advantage for winter storage. I'm still waiting for the snow to melt so I can get to the boat.

Happy sailing.
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Turk
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Response Posted - 04/02/2005 :  18:24:30  Show Profile  Visit Turk's Homepage
Yea the pole barn has definitly made a difference in being able to work on my Miss Kitty.

I've moved up to a 2003 WK 250 and am hoping it will fit in the door. Last I measured, up to the bow rail it is 11' 6". My pole barn door is 11' 9". Cross your fingers


Turk
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bear
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Response Posted - 04/02/2005 :  19:12:27  Show Profile
Turk, Is that a modified rear mast support? I was thinking about assembling a taller rear mast support just for having the mast more verticle before cranking it up the rest of the way.
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Turk
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Response Posted - 04/02/2005 :  21:30:10  Show Profile  Visit Turk's Homepage
No, it is not modified, it is a standard c22 mast raise kit. They seem to be higher than the c250 version.


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Turk
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Response Posted - 04/02/2005 :  21:31:55  Show Profile  Visit Turk's Homepage

My full website is

www.elmhurstprop.com/kitty

It is for my c22 that is now for sale!

turk




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<br />Al & Turk,

Thanks for your thoughts and experiences. Turk - Great web site! I see you use the moving A-frame. Sort of a combination A-frame and gin pole. I was considering the stationary A-frame that was pictured in an earlier posting here. The stationary version has a winch attached to the A-frame that is used to pull up the mast, and theoretically reduces sway.

I'm definitely envious of that garage you have. It must be a great advantage for winter storage. I'm still waiting for the snow to melt so I can get to the boat.

Happy sailing.

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