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sskipper
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Initially Posted - 10/05/2001 :  22:00:09  Show Profile
Not being experienced and having been caught out with the boat not tacking through the wind on a lee shore. Why?
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 10/06/2001 :  09:07:03  Show Profile
The only reason I can imagine why the boat won’t tack across the wind is that you are not maintaining sufficient boat speed. Are you singlehanding the boat when the problem occurs, or do you have crew? If you are singlehanding it, you have to orchestrate
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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 10/06/2001 :  10:14:21  Show Profile
'Nice post, Steve ... I'm also new, and we newbies appreciate the time you and others take to give us a helping hand ... THANKS! <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

Buzz Maring, C-25 SK #68, "Freya"
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 10/08/2001 :  11:25:55  Show Profile
In my previous post, I might not have answered the question that most concerned you. I suspect you are having difficulty clawing off a lee shore. In order to claw off a lee shore, you must tack efficiently, as described in my previous post, but, after you
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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 10/08/2001 :  12:40:18  Show Profile
Another good post Steve. In addition to all you said, it seems that many sailors have trouble clawing off up wind because they can't get either the main or jib flat enough in stronger winds. Many novice sailors really don't adjust the depth of draft in
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sskipper
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Response Posted - 10/08/2001 :  15:08:50  Show Profile
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Another good post Steve. In addition to all you said, it seems that many sailors have trouble clawing off up wind because they can't get eit
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sskipper
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Response Posted - 10/08/2001 :  15:33:03  Show Profile
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Another good post Steve. In addition to all you said, it seems that many sailors have trouble clawing off up wind because they can't get eit
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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 10/08/2001 :  18:42:03  Show Profile
Don't worry about the main being "too short for the boom". All of them are shorter than what would appear "normal". It's because of the traveler and mainsheet being attached to the transom and boom end respectively. This is done to get enough mechanica
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 10/08/2001 :  19:17:10  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Didn't Lee Helm run for senator in Alabama in the 80's?
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John Mason
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Response Posted - 10/15/2001 :  18:40:57  Show Profile
Another thing to consider that hasn't been mentioned yet, is to make sure you are sailing as close to the wind as the boat can without "pinching", with sails trimmed appropriately, before you initiate the tack. I've been guilty of trying to tack from a be
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Bristle
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Response Posted - 10/15/2001 :  23:03:45  Show Profile
...and then, as was mentioned in an earlier post, leave the jib sheeted tightly on the original side so it backwinds and pushes the bow over, and release and reset it only when the main fills on the opposite tack. That and enough speed close enough to th
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Response Posted - 10/16/2001 :  09:07:12  Show Profile
Very good points made above; boat speed = control & momentum. Another thing also is to watch the wave patterns and go about on the crest or in a relatively flat patch so the waves don't slap the bow back to the original tack when coming about.
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Nancy Cole
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Response Posted - 10/19/2001 :  19:53:20  Show Profile
Greetings

I had to chuckle as I read all these notes about not being able to turn through the wind. I am a new sailor and spent most of the summer sailing with a great coach (Mark Kondracky for those in CT) We never sailed when he didn't preach to me
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Bristle
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Response Posted - 10/19/2001 :  21:09:11  Show Profile
Hi again, Nancy...

Your "coach" is certainly right--a big belly causes big heeling in strong winds, and reduces your pointing ability. Pointing is good for tacking--possibly the reason "sskipper" couldn't get through the wind. When I'm on a beam o
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sskipper
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Response Posted - 11/15/2001 :  23:29:37  Show Profile
Thanks everyone, for your suggestions, tips and all advice offered. 'Resolute' is coming out off the water on Sat am. Over the winter lots needs to be sorted, sails, traveller, back-stay and halyards to name a few just off the top of my head. I,m off to c
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John V.
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Response Posted - 11/20/2001 :  23:14:16  Show Profile  Visit John V.'s Homepage
This is an excelent thread and I have enjoyed reading the many sound responses. I have one small observation to add. The wind, especially close to shore does not flow in a line but in swirls and waves. If you use tell tails on the jib you can watch the f
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