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Need a replacement mast extrusion where do I turn?

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randykoenig
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Initially Posted - 04/21/2005 : 09:13:26

Lost my mast in IVAN and need to get a replacement. Boat was uninsured so I'd like to get just the extrusion so I can save the hardware etc. I'd love some advice and direction from people who have been there.
randy

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 04/21/2005 : 10:47:45

randy,

Very sorry to hear about your C-25 mast. I have replaced the masts on two sailboats so far, including my C-25.

My suggestions are to determine whether you are looking for a standard or tall rig, and try to include your model year, although that's probably not essential. I think the same two extrusions (std & tall) were used for the entire model run. Perhaps Bill H. can verify that for us, or you could contact the Catalina Yachts factory tech. staff. While you've got Catalina Yachts on the phone, find out what it would cost to get a new bare extrusion from them, including shipping. That way you have a 'worst case price' against which to measure any other alternatives you unearth.

Once you know which mast you're hunting for, try to find a used one anywhere in the country. Start by advertising here in our swapmeet ads. Call around to major sailboat junkyards, particularly in hurricane affected areas. (Maybe a C-25 got totaled from hull damage without trashing its rig.) If you're not sure how to find sailboat junkyards in your part of the country, ask here, and contact insurance companies to find out who they wholesale their total loss sailboats to.

Depending on how badly damaged your stick is, it's sometimes possible to splint one. However, this is not necessarily a job for your local shade tree welding shop. (In fact, it may not involve welding at all.) Consult a reputable spar rigger for options and details.

Good luck, and don't hesitate to ask here for more detailed advice and help.

-- Leon Sisson

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 04/21/2005 : 11:21:27

My research turned up Lefiell.com as the supplier for Catalina. This is an email from 03 with some prices.

From: "Averill, Don" <daverill@lefiell.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:38:33 -0700
To: "'fhopper@cox.net'" <fhopper@cox.net>
Subject: HOPPER2964.rtf quote for Catalina 25 mast and boom

Frank,

This is the quote you requested for a new mast and boom for your Catalina
25.
$2624.38
The mast is complete with 4 sheave mast head providing for 4 internal
halyards, spreaders and welded mounts, fixed mast step, compression tubes,
through bolts, tangs and pins, cleats, and gooseneck with integral reef
horns. A PVC conduit is installed to allow the installation of wiring and
lights on the mast. The boom has a 3 sheave boom end exit box, and is
internally rigged for the outhaul. The boom is configured for end boom
sheeting. they are finished with Sterling linear polyurethane. We offer many
colors and shades of white to choose from.

What type of tabernacle bracket and through bolt assembly do you have? Will
it require a compression tube with doublers in the mast base? Do you want us
to provide the wiring and lights for an anchor light and combination deck
and steamer light? Do you want us to provide a VHF radio antenna cable in
the conduit?

After you have had a chance to review the quote, contact me for any
questions you may have.

Thank you,

Don Averill
(562) 921-3411 X-330

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atgep
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Response Posted - 04/21/2005 : 11:32:24

Give these guys a call.

https://www.dwyermast.com/

Catalina may be able to get you the extrusion at a good price if you could get them to piggyback it with a new boat to your local dealer(free shipping)

Hope this helps, Tom.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 04/21/2005 : 14:31:09

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by atgep
 Give these guys a call.
Catalina may be able to get you the extrusion at a good price if you could get them to piggyback it with a new boat to your local dealer(free shipping)
Hope this helps, Tom.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Catalina will be delivering our new C250WB to Cocoa Beach area near end of may!
(I guessing you must be somewhere near east of west of that)

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teamwike
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Response Posted - 04/21/2005 : 15:50:17

I have a standard one for free in Pensacola Fl. I bought a new tall one from Catalina for around 685.00 shipped, but those prices are no longer.
Max
teamwike@comcast.net

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ilnadi
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Response Posted - 04/21/2005 : 15:53:25

Catalina Direct has them for $605, don't know about shipping...

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randykoenig
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Response Posted - 04/21/2005 : 18:55:14

Thanks for the input, My boat is a tall rig 1983 with a swing keel. My intentions was to take the slight kink out of it and have it splinted/ welded. After putting 20 hours into this task, I got railroaded by the kind looters in the area who chop sawed the mast off below the spreader and took the aluminum for scrap. In addition they liberated all the extrusions from my roller furler. Such kind people to help me with the clean up like that. I have contacted Dwyer and lefeil.com as well. Currently hoping for a good solution. I don't know how putting a standard on would work seeing as all the sails and rigging are for tall. Is it possible to put two masts together (refering to teamwike offer above)? It would be the top of mine and the bottom of his. Hmmm.
Randy

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 04/21/2005 : 20:27:23

Randy,<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I don't know how putting a standard on would work seeing as all the sails and rigging are for tall.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I switched from a tall rig to standard. The affected parts include: mast (including masthead fitting, internal electrical wiring), all standing rigging (length only - terminals are same), all sails, all halyards, mast step/tabernacle, spreader base compression sleeves, bimini. Maybe items: topping lift, vang, gooseneck. The low effort solution here would be to stumble upon a recently written off C-25 with either rig, and get everything at once if it's a rig change for you.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Is it possible to put two masts together<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">The C-25 standard and tall rigs use two different extrusion cross sections. I suspect joining them reliably would be far more trouble than it's worth.

As for your scrap scavengers, may I suggest legal prosecution. I hope you filed a police report.

-- Leon Sisson

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randykoenig
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Response Posted - 04/22/2005 : 01:00:35

I filed a police report, and they kindly said they'd try and find the people who did this, but truthfully I have a hard time thinking that anything will happen. The neighborhood is a warzone even now with half of the people living in FEMA trailors. The weather is just perfect for sailing and no boat to play on :(
randy

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John J.
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Response Posted - 04/22/2005 : 06:02:10

Randy, I'm assuming you're in the southeast if you got hit by Ivan. Try JSI in ST. Pete.I think the # is 727-577-3220. If that's not right, let me know, I can find it.

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Ellis Bloomfield
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Response Posted - 04/22/2005 : 09:04:02

Randy,
I replaced my standard mast last fall (insurance covered it) and found the best deal was Catalina Direct. Their extrusions are $552 and the complete mast a little under a thousand. The complete mast is shipped with the masthead, spreaders, lights, and is wired. I found Catalina extremely hard to deal with, whereas CD goes overboard to be helpful. I was going to use some of my hardware off the old mast but the fellow from CD pointed out the difficulty of installing the necessary internal stiffeners where the spreader brackets attach. Shipping to Minnesota was $200. The only downside was the time involved getting it, and that holdup was with Catalina who supplies CD.
Ellis

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randykoenig
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Response Posted - 04/22/2005 : 10:19:15

That sounds like the way to go, I contacted SJI and their price is 2200 for everything. I hadn't heard about the internal stiffeners, which does change things a bit. Do you have the number for cat direct?

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Bruce Baker
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Response Posted - 04/25/2005 : 13:56:08

I replaced the mast on my boat two years ago. I got the complete mast from Catalina Direct with internal halyards. I'm delighted with the new product--I could never make the masthead light light up on the old mast. My recollection was it cost about $950.

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