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jlguthri
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Initially Posted - 04/22/2005 :  23:27:44  Show Profile  Visit jlguthri's Homepage
Anyone know the size of the clevis pin used to fasten the keel cable
to the keel? My poor boat has a bolt in it that is oversized and is
impacting the hull, in the keel trunk, making a nice little groove.
The wild thing is that the boat don't leak a drop (except when the
wind blows rain in). Guess I'm lucky I found it when I did and I
guess that explains the horrible noise I heard when I raised the keel.
And to think, I thought it was just barnicles being crushed.






from http://westmouthbay.com/pictures/album07




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Joshua Guthrie
www.westmouthbay.com

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 04/23/2005 :  10:32:24  Show Profile
I'd lower the keel enough to inspect and measure... from the look of things, the stock pin might not be what you need. IMHO it looks like the previous owner may have performed some er... 'modifications' to the keel cable attachment area. Looks like there will need to be some
significant fiberglass repair up in there too. The damage is in an area that can sink the boat should it fail and should be repaired properly.


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jlguthri
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Response Posted - 04/23/2005 :  20:43:19  Show Profile  Visit jlguthri's Homepage
I think I have it now. I cut off bolt. It took us a while to figure out how to get the whole thing so that we could inspect it. I tried to find a clevis pin to fit. When I couldn't, we just chopped off the offending poriton of the bolt. It looks ok now. We reinforced the inside w/ epoxy, it didn't scrape as bad as I thought. Maybe a hole about as thick as a CD. To be on the safe side, I'll add several layers of cloth on the inside of the boat. The glass appears to be pretty thick here (thank goodness).

Yea, it was something that sent my heart to my stomach :) Esp, when I wasn't sure how I would be able to get to it.

On the brighter side, it will sure be nice to be able to raise the keel all the way now :) Where I run this thing, two inches will make a world of difference.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 04/24/2005 :  17:39:11  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
I doubt there are any of us that would encourage you to continue using that bolt. If you really work that keel a lot due to shallow water I would do a complete and proper refit of the lifting eye and cable. I can't believe the swaged eye on the cable could be looking very good after threads have been sawing back and forth on it.

What do some of you others think? Would you put back in with that bolt and current hardware?

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 04/24/2005 :  20:53:59  Show Profile  Visit Leon Sisson's Homepage
The bolt sounds a little sketchy. I'd get the factory parts. They're not at all expensive.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 04/24/2005 :  21:37:37  Show Profile
I would absolutely do a replacement... an uncontrolled keel swing due to a cable break can damage the hull and sink the boat. The fact that the PO would put a bolt in like that makes the entire setup somewhat suspect. Can't tell for sure from the picture, but it looks like a plain steel bolt too. The keel hardware on a swinger needs regular inspection and maintenance... doubly so in salt water.

Joshua, If you don't already have it, I highly recommend purchasing the Catalina 25 Owners Guide from Catalina Direct. http://www.catalinadirect.com/

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jlguthri
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Response Posted - 04/24/2005 :  22:55:49  Show Profile  Visit jlguthri's Homepage
I agree. However, I'm afraid leaving the boat on dry land until I get parts from catalina direct isn't an option. We have took a grinder to the SS bolt and removed about .5 inchs from the bolt. It don't look like it could possibly hit the hull anymore -- that the bolt is w/in the dimension of the keel now. Besides, thankfully, it was only barely making contact with the hull before (if not, the boat would be a quite bit soggy by now).

I made a frantic trip to (as much as it pains me) West Marine to search for a suitable clevis pin. I could't fine one there to fit, which surprised me. I'm not happy with the bolt arrangment, but feel that it is a suitable temporary fix.


Shoot, I'll have to post the pictures of my poor keel pin. That thing had like an 1/8th inch or more bend in it. I planned on replacing it anyway, and already had parts ready to replace that one... That thing took a heck of a jolt.




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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 04/25/2005 :  07:27:44  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Those of use with trailers are very lucky, we set our own priorities! Good luck.

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