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takokichi
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Initially Posted - 05/15/2005 :  19:11:52  Show Profile
The recent thread on sail trim got me wondering at what wind speeds you guys carry what sails. I know that this has come up in a lot of threads, but it would nice to pull the information together onto one thread.

I'll start: We primarily use our boat for inshore buoy racing, some random leg and point to point racing, and once a year for a double handed distance race. We also daysail a few days a week and cruise once a summer.

Our mainsail is a five year old Doyle full batten main, that I'm now flying loose footed. Somewhat generous roach. Our headsail has been a catalina loft biradial 135%. We just bought a local loft triradial 150%.

We tend to carry full canvas until there are whitecaps and the chop is up to about a foot. We vang the heck out of the main, and I play the mainsheet to keep to boat on her feet. We leave the headsailed dialed in to the best trim for the point of sail, and ease it only if we're going to wipe out. We'll roll the head sail if we have to to keep the boat happy, but given the first opportunity we reef the main and put the whole head sail back out b/c we point higher that way.

What are you guys doing and when do you reef?

jwa
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bbriner
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Response Posted - 05/17/2005 :  14:37:02  Show Profile
I have an original main - which is blown pretty bad so I can't shape it much at all. I have two foresails - a 90 and a 120 (~). I'll use the former if the forecast is for 20kts and the latter if its for anything less. Also I'll use the small jib if I have newbies on board. Both are old-style - hanked on.

I reef when I get too much weather helm and/or my arm is getting sore or earlier if I have company and they are getting nervous (or if I am getting nervous...even if my arm isn't sore yet).

This probably doesn't help much :)

Bill B
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 05/17/2005 :  15:13:16  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Saturday I was trying out my newly recut 80% with a single reef in the main. It worked real well. It was in the mid 20s with gusts into the upper 20s that backed about 40 degrees. I am not sure what I would use today. One of the fun things about Cheney is as a lake we only have chop, no real waves.
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 05/17/2005 :  16:10:46  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
Here is my process. Usually flying 135 with full main. Lets talk racing. If the wife and kids or newbies are on board I keep the boat much flatter.

The boat feels good heeled about 25 degrees. If I've got this much wind the backstay would be tight, all halyards tight, no wrinkles in sail. But full shape. If you can't get here, put on the 155 and get a full sail shape.

If it gets up over 30 to 35 degrees and stays there I do a couple of things:

(1) tighten outhaul first
(2) move jib blocks back at the same time.
(3) if it doesn't come back down ease traveller
(4) get tiller extender and hike out as much as possible (this is going to be fun!)

If its just a gust I usually let the boat heel and try to steer upwind.

If it is still going up over 40 degrees and staying there:

(1) pull in flattening reef in main. 99% of the time you will come back down to 25 degrees. Return traveller.

If it is still going over 40 degrees:

(1) Change headsail down to 110% Move genoa blocks up.
(2) 1st reef in main.

If it still over powered

(1) change headsail down to stormsail (60%)
(2) 2nd reef in main

If it is still too much:

(1) headed upwind? get genoa down and motorsail with douple reefed main. I assume you are going home.

(2) downwind? get main down and sail under storm jib alone. Ditto on the going home part.

I don't know windspeeds, everything is based on angle of heel. The boat will round up at 45 degrees - you need to prevent that.
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bbriner
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Response Posted - 05/18/2005 :  12:29:54  Show Profile
Frank - sounds like you had a good time!!

Bill B
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