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 Fixed Gooseneck Vs. Adjustable Gooseneck
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tcufrogger
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Initially Posted - 05/15/2005 :  23:14:22  Show Profile
Hello All -

I had my Gooseneck Casting (End of the Boom) on my Original Adjustable Gooseneck assembly. So I am going to buy a new Boom fitting tomorrow from CD and noticed they had a retrofit kit for a Fixed Gooseneck and that got me to thinking if that would be a better solution than the sliding one. Has anyone installed the retrofit and have any thoughts on the pros or cons?

Thanks!

John

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1986 C-25 SK #5335
Murphy, TX

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Dave Laux
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Response Posted - 05/16/2005 :  06:50:23  Show Profile
I am putting one on an older boat this week. As long as you have a halyard winch there is no dissadvantage that I can see and it does simplify things. Dave

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/16/2005 :  18:28:14  Show Profile
When I was installing my bimini, it was nice having an adjustable gooseneck to help me tweak the fit.

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Dave Laux
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Response Posted - 05/16/2005 :  19:41:33  Show Profile
Thats a good reason but now your back to treating it like a fixed one right. Dave

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/16/2005 :  19:55:30  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Dave Laux</i>
<br />Thats a good reason but now your back to treating it like a fixed one right. Dave
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Right.

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matsche
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Response Posted - 05/17/2005 :  06:33:46  Show Profile
John:

I might be misreading your post, so forgive me if I'm missing the point but I think you're talking about doing away with your mainsail downhaul and making it fixed?

If it were me (and it isn't) then I'd leave it sliding for 3 reasons:

First, it's a valuable sail control, to be able to tighten up the luff while under sail. True, you could tighten the halyard instead, but the downhaul's much quicker and easier while under sail.

Second, maybe yours does, but most 25's don't have a main halyard winch, so it's difficult to tighten the luff without the downhaul.

Third, if you buy a new mainsail in the future that is taller than your current mainsail, you might want that ability to adjust the height of the foot. Same issue if you install a bimini as Don pointed out.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 05/17/2005 :  07:34:38  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
I am going fixed when I pull next fall. I hate the current gooseneck. My cunningham serves for sail shape. I think it is a design detail carried over from the very trailerable 22 that has no real benefit for us.

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matsche
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Response Posted - 05/17/2005 :  08:21:39  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com</i>
<br />I think it is a design detail carried over from the very trailerable 22 that has no real benefit for us.
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You'll find downhauls on much bigger, non-trailerable boats as well.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 05/17/2005 :  08:28:24  Show Profile
I agree with the points made by brother Matsche.

With a sliding gooseneck, you can sit on the boom to put extra tension on the luff of the mainsail in high winds. To put tension on it with a fixed gooseneck, you either need to use the halyard (and you can't put that much tension on the main halyard unless you have a second winch on the mast for that purpose), or you need to use a heavily reinforced cunningham and the tensioning device has to have adequate purchase.

Also, if you have a tall rig, you can only install a functional bimini if you can raise the boom in some way, either by using a flattening reef or a short reef. I doubt that you can raise it enough with a fixed gooseneck.

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tinob
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Response Posted - 05/17/2005 :  09:12:55  Show Profile
John's points are well taken to which I'll add that an adjustable gooseneck is a must with a dodger.


Val on Calista #$ 3936

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