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John J.
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Initially Posted - 06/02/2005 : 20:34:03

I've installed CDI furling and the deck hardware. I still have to mount the cleat in/near the cockpit for the furling line. Where is the best place to mount it?

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 06/02/2005 : 21:02:29

To secure my furling line, I installed a stanchion mounted cleat about a foot above the last stanchion mounted fairlead. The stanchion where the last fairlead and cleat are located is the one just forward of the Catalina 25 logo on the port side. I positioned this cleat facing aft so as not to snag lines nor legs when going forward.

This setup requires no drilling and does not present a trip hazard.

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ilnadi
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Response Posted - 06/02/2005 : 22:51:36

We also have a cleat on the some stanchion with a block shackled to the stanchion base. We replaced it with a block-with-cam, no cleating required, just pull. Works great when furling, need to give it a good snap to release it (hopefully will go away when we bungee the block upright). The admiral (who is the 100-lb muscle around the boat) says it is easier than cleating under load.

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Response Posted - 06/02/2005 : 22:57:25

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ilnadi
 The admiral (who is the 100-lb muscle around the boat) says it is easier than cleating under load.
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What load?

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Response Posted - 06/02/2005 : 22:58:51

My boat's PO installed the furler cleat on the outside of the port coaming. Works just fine there.

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ilnadi
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Response Posted - 06/02/2005 : 23:10:21

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dlucier
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ilnadi
 The admiral (who is the 100-lb muscle around the boat) says it is easier than cleating under load.
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What load?
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The "aaaaah! furl the headsail halfway in while heeled

" load

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Response Posted - 06/03/2005 : 07:38:35

There is a serious safety issue here. A furling line that comes loose in a thunderstorm wind or at the dock when no ones around is not something you want. I do not think that a cam cleat is a satisfactory fastening. Dave

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Response Posted - 06/03/2005 : 10:47:39

I have a cleat similar to that which Steve's photo exhibits and when ever it blows I find myself wishing I had used something a little more substantial. Dave's comment rings clear and loud.

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Response Posted - 06/03/2005 : 11:07:31

I like the block-with-cam becuse it holds as you furl, the sail does not run back out if you let go. When the sail will not be used, we tied up the line and hang it on the cleat so the sail will not unroll even if the cam slips (I suppose about a foot of line can go though if the tied-up bundle falls off the cleat and the cam slips). I think the block holds the line in the cam at a proper angle better than a deck-mounted cam would.

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Response Posted - 06/03/2005 : 14:20:46

If you use the cleat on the stanchion setup, not only is it easy to install, it gives one a place to hang the line.

Here are pics of my setup.

To echo Dave's concern about furling headsails coming unwrapped, I always furl in my headsail so that I get two full wraps of the sheets around the sail to lessen the possibility of a mishap.

There are two sailboat owners in my marina that don't furl completely, leaving a small triangular piece of sail sticking out. Now, this is just begging for trouble!

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Response Posted - 06/03/2005 : 14:58:03

That I agree with (especially after we saw what Clarley did to the furled headsails on a few of the boats next to us). This is what we learned: furl until there are 2-3 wraps, then cleat the furling line and the sheets so they all have a bit of tension on them. Our setup looks almost the same, except there is a single block with cam instead of a fairlead at the stantion base.
<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dlucier
 To echo Dave's concern about furling headsails coming unwrapped, I always furl in my headsail so that I get two full wraps of the sheets around the sail to lessen the possibility of a mishap.

There are two sailboat owners in my marina that don't furl completely, leaving a small triangular piece of sail sticking out. Now, this is just begging for trouble!
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