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MattL
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Initially Posted - 04/15/2002 : 15:51:16

A while ago I asked if anyone knew anything about get my marine head pumped out sans marina. Since then I have found the waste caddy at west marine for $450. there was a reply from someone saying that they put one together with a pump and a jerry can. Does anyone have a parts list for something like this that I could put together.
I did pump the boat our on a trip to San Francisco, but the little lake I keep the boat at has no such facility. I would rather not rip out the existing system, because it works and I don't want to fix something not broken.
I saw a pump in the WM catalogue for $150, but couldnt figure out what fitting I needed to attach to the boat.
Any help would be appriciated.<img src=icon_smile_shy.gif border=0 align=middle>

Matt
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Douglas
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Response Posted - 04/15/2002 : 21:01:23

Does your deck fitting have threads ??? Have you looked in any books about upgrading you silboat / cruiser. I have seen several ways to pump out. One such plan involced a whale pump to hand pump the tank out of the deck fitting. Do you have a maserator or stock head from factory???

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MattL
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Response Posted - 04/16/2002 : 03:03:14

it is a stock threaded fitting. Will measure tomorrow? just a head tubbing and a holding tank. Looks like the drawing in the manuals section.

Matt
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IndyJim
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Response Posted - 05/03/2002 : 00:37:02

Matt and Douglas,

This is my first season onboard my C-25 and I'm wondering what I'll do when my holding tank starts to get full. My wonderful little reservoir doesn't have pump out facilities either.

I was wondering if those poor guys that drive those poop pumper trucks around during festivals and other port-o-let events make housecalls to dockside? I'm on a mooring but I can use the courtesy dock and get about 30 feet from the ramp. I just wonder if they'd come pump it out for a nominal fee. That would seem more logistical than hauling her out, dropping the mast and towing her to some nearby campground with a pumpout station.

Does anyone know if those poop pumpers make housecalls?

IndyJim
"Itza Dew Sea"
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/03/2002 : 01:34:13

IndyJim,

What do the other sailors/boaters do in your area in this situation?

You could convert to a porta-potty setup. http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/commerce/command/CategoryDisplay?cgmenbr=201& cgrfnbr=553& outlet=

or invest in a Waste Caddy ($439.00) to pump out your boat. http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/commerce/command/ProductDisplay?prmenbr=201& prrfnbr=9353& store_num=11& store_name=Plumbing& subdept_num=552& subdept_name=Marine%20Sanitation& class_num=555& class_name=Holding%20Tanks%20%26%20Treatment%20Systems& outlet=
With this device, you could start a little pumpout business on the side. <img src=icon_smile_dead.gif border=0 align=middle>

Don Lucier, Northstar
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IndyJim
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Response Posted - 05/31/2002 : 02:09:40

Don,

I think most of them have chemical toilets or porta-potty's. Perhaps the ones that I'm not aware of haul her out and trailer to a campground or truck stop with a pump out station. I'm just trying to avoid dropping the mast just to empty waste.

Jim
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Doug
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Response Posted - 05/31/2002 : 03:02:37

Pump outs are really little more than a big vac. Couple of ideas:
Why couldn't you just buy a $60.00, 10 gallon shop vac devoted to waste? Suck out the waste, carry it ashore and flush & rinse. Same way a porta potti works.
An electric drill pump with a hose?
Remove the large holding tank and install a smaller tank you can carry out, or re-route the drains to a small portable tank under the V berth?

Doug - #1913 Noeta

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 05/31/2002 : 03:14:22

Doug thats an ugly picture. All that odiferous material coming from the shop vac vent oooohh. The easy thing to do is carefully remove the regular head. Cap or plug lines and fittings so it can be put back together in the future. Purchase and use a Porta Potie. Its the simplest and most cost efective way to go.

Doug&Ruth
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Tacoma Wa.

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jm
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Response Posted - 05/31/2002 : 10:40:38

This discussion is way to disgusting for me. Someone put a warning label on it - WARNING WARNING!! - not for those with a weak stomach.

(I think it was the image of using a WetVac to suck out the holding tank) I'll never look at my ShopVac the same way again..

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OJ
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Response Posted - 05/31/2002 : 11:53:37

I know this doesn't answer <i>your</i> question Matt, but for the benefit of those who haven't read my earlier posts on this topic; We replaced our built-in head with a porta-potti that has an auxiliary pipe that accepts the hose connected to the thru-deck pumpout fitting. This satifies the needs of both situations.

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MattL
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Response Posted - 05/31/2002 : 15:57:01

Doug,
That is a fantastic idea, I love the thought of using a shop vac. Too bad I didn't read it last week end. Even though I gave my 5 year old specific instructions not to use the toilet on the boat, when your 5 and you got to go you got to go. I came back on the boat as he was trying to figure out what to do with the situation. I went ahead and orderd more TP and waste tabs from West Marine, I got the biological tablets. I went to Nautical Outfiters for the Waste Caddy, ~$50 cheeper than WM. I looked in WM catalogue and decided after the price of a pump and then all the extra stuff, I could jerry rig a device, but the Waste Caddy is a complete unit and I hope will not fall apart as I take it to shore. It should arrive in a few days. Will let you know how it works, or doesn't.
In regards to the politness of the thread. My Dad was a veterinarian. Growing up in his office and going on calls to the daries nothing is gross. The only thing we wouldn't let him do was cut salami with his pocket knife, we knew what he used it for.<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Matt Loeffler
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jm
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Response Posted - 05/31/2002 : 16:06:32

Don't all/most shop-vacs send a stream of air out the discharge hole, and when liquids are involved, said liquids are typically dispersed as part of the air discharge ? Check the wind direction before hitting the wet-vac switch.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 06/03/2002 : 08:30:04

Just remember to get a shop vac with a bigger capacity than the Holding tank. Also, most pump outs will flush the system with water and pump that out too so you'll need the additional space.

DW

Duane Wolff
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