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John P
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Initially Posted - 07/07/2005 :  07:29:21  Show Profile  Visit John P's Homepage
My mast is down currently waiting to be raised. I checked and connected all the side stays last night. The back stay is connected. My back stay has a 2nd cable swaged to it, about 4-6' up from the shackle. The short length also has a shackle on it. I can not see where it may connect to, nor does the manual indicate it.
Any ideas?
'84, C-25, SR/FK, #4663, "ILLUSIONS", Chazy, NY (Lake Champlain)
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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 07/07/2005 :  07:57:54  Show Profile
John, that sounds like the "pigtail." You clip the shackle to the end of the boom when at dock or moored, so the boom will neither swing wildly nor drop on your head in the cockpit.

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John P
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Response Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:10:01  Show Profile  Visit John P's Homepage
Yep! That is the same answer from the PO. Thanks.
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dhunt
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Response Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:13:10  Show Profile
While it's still down - SERIOUSLY consider adding a topping lift. This is a line from the top of the mast to the end of the boom. The lift will allow you to adjust the height of the the boom while under sail or at anchor. Raising, lowering, and reefing sails is a whole lot easier if you use a proper topping lift. The 'pigtail' is a poor second that only keeps the boom out of the cockpit.
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John P
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Response Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:24:06  Show Profile  Visit John P's Homepage
Dave, thanks for the advice. I will double check, but I believe I already have one installed. It took me awhile to figure out what the extra line was that is just connected at the top.
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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 07/07/2005 :  10:34:52  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by John P</i>
<br />Dave, thanks for the advice. I will double check, but I believe I already have one installed. It took me awhile to figure out what the extra line was that is just connected at the top.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Hi John,

It sounds like you already have a topping lift, and that's a good thing ... it will also keep the boom from falling into the cockpit when the mainsail is not raised.

A word of caution ... make sure to detach the backstay pigtail before you raise the main ... otherwise, after you raise the mainsail and "fall off" to catch the wind, the pigtail will hold the boom fast, and you won't be able to control the boom with the mainsheet ... it can make for an interesting ride ... don't ask me how I know that ...
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mashedcat
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Response Posted - 07/07/2005 :  13:12:39  Show Profile
Buzz, welcome to my world
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thaind
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Response Posted - 07/07/2005 :  21:51:11  Show Profile
I wonder how many of us have done that? The first time out on my C25 I was trying to impress my new to sailig wife with how easy it all was, and turned into the wind to find be main unresponsive. I looked all around and then up to see the pigtail still attached. We healed pretty hard before we luffed. Lesson learned, and now added to Leo's pre-flight checklist.
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DanM
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Response Posted - 07/08/2005 :  09:06:49  Show Profile  Visit DanM's Homepage
Count me in. Like John, I recently figured out why I have that extra line. What confused me was that it is not adjustable, as on some friends' boats. Luckily I haven't needed it yet. See Don Lucier's post to me re: backstay adjuster. Now I have a new use for the pigtail.
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