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ClamBeach
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Initially Posted - 07/20/2005 :  21:56:14  Show Profile
http://www.sailinganarchy.com/index.htm

This thread on the Sailnet board doesn't look good either...

http://www.sailnet.com/messageboards/readmessage.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=11838
WOTAM - '77 Catalina 25 SK/SR Sail Number 158
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Gloss
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Response Posted - 07/21/2005 :  06:50:25  Show Profile
I'm not surprised they are out of business. Their customer service was quite poor, at best. Both before, and after the Boyles owned them.
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lcharlot
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Antigua and Barbuda
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Response Posted - 07/21/2005 :  11:44:02  Show Profile
What a shame. I bought my new ST winches, tillerpilot, and some ground tackle from Sailnet last year at substantially lower prices than WM. I was also addicted to John Kretschmer's monthly column, the last of which, "Love of landfalls", was posted in October of last year. Hmmmm - here's something interesting; people are reporting that Sailnet is kaput, yet their Web server is still up (probably for not very much longer).
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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 07/21/2005 :  14:23:55  Show Profile
I've seen a number of sailnet forum users recommend heading over to "sailjazz" for continuing discussion lists, although I haven't been there myself.

Steve
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DrDre
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Response Posted - 07/21/2005 :  16:04:08  Show Profile
Contacted a friend in Charleston, SC who's waiting on an anchor from Sailnet that never showed up. He called Lewmar and they confirmed that as of yesterday Sailnet has declared bankruptcy. That's too bad, I found them a good resource and always enjoyed the articles on the website.
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Earl Landers
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Response Posted - 07/22/2005 :  08:32:17  Show Profile
I must confess that I lurk on the C30 and C34 message boards, its 5 and 9 foot itis. One of the side effects of Sailnet turning off their server, is that the C30 message board (and many others) is gone . The C34 site has also been down for the same length of time. I suspect that the officers of both those organizations are scrambling to find another server and I am greatful that our officers have placed our board elsewhere .
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cat30
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Response Posted - 07/22/2005 :  09:27:51  Show Profile
I think a lot of people are going to sailjazz, run by the boyles - they have started lists there already. they again have articles by all your favorite seagoing writers
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 07/22/2005 :  12:35:16  Show Profile
One of the big concerns with the Sailnet collapse was that the 'history' on the forums they hosted would be lost... years and years of valuable experience/knowledge.

Hopefully that didn't happen.
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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 07/22/2005 :  17:55:47  Show Profile
I ordered a 7-17 whisker pole from sailnet May 4 because the price was great and the shipping was free. June 1 I emailed them to ask whether I should just forget the pole, or if they had any intention of shipping it. No reply. Then my credit card bill came with the pole charged, but still no arrival. I called the credit card company and challenged the charges, which were erased. A week later the pole arrived (six weeks after the order). I contacted sailnet, which said they would charge my card. That's not yet happened. So, at the moment, I have a free whisker pole. It's no wonder they're out of business.

Brooke
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 07/24/2005 :  23:56:42  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Brooke Willson</i>
<br />So, at the moment, I have a free whisker pole. It's no wonder they're out of business.
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I'm guessing your pole is the least of their problems.
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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 07/25/2005 :  06:20:17  Show Profile
No doubt, Dave -- it's only one symptom of a much bigger problem. I'm finding that I'm increasingly willing to pay more to get decent service, whether it's at a marine supply store, the corner hardware store, Chick-Fil-A (which seems to hire employees with IQs at least 50 points higher and with infinitely better manners) vs. any other "fast" food places (which are no longer fast for the aforementioned reasons), computers (Mac), grocery stores (here in Virginia there's an amazing chain called Ukrops that's unlike anything I've ever seen), banks, and everything else. In my old age, I'd rather have quality than quantity, and service is an essential component of that quality. There are catalog dealers like L.L. Bean and Land's End who still seem to understand that, but sailnet forgot it to their peril.

Brooke
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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 07/25/2005 :  18:44:56  Show Profile
Hi everyone,

'Just got this email from Sailnet ... they sound serious ...

<font color="blue">It has come to the attention of SailNet that postings have appeared on unmoderated forums that we host containing rumors and allegations against former and current management. We have no knowledge that any of the claims or allegations in these postings are true. We are attempting to remove as many of these unmoderated postings as possible.

The authors of any such postings will be held fully and solely responsible and liable for their content.
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Doug
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Response Posted - 07/25/2005 :  20:27:36  Show Profile
This last email popped up everywhere all of a sudden. Don't like the tone or tack they are taking.
Any concerns I had about doing business with them are now gone. I'll go elsewhere.
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 07/25/2005 :  20:36:56  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
I am on their mailing list but did not get the email. Apparently they are only sending to the people they intend to sue...
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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 07/25/2005 :  21:18:23  Show Profile
I got two of those emails, one on the Capri list and one on the Downeast list. Struck me as an odd letter and I wondered if someone had hacked the now possibly unattended servers.
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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 07/28/2005 :  19:56:04  Show Profile
Out of the Charleston Post and Courier

"Financial troubles sink SailNet
7/28/2005 6:56:08 AM
SailNet, an online shopping site for boating enthusiasts that expanded quickly during the dot-com boom, has declared bankruptcy and will be sold off.T...

BY JOHN P. MCDERMOTT"

4th article down in the link.

http://www.charleston.net/business/
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Auburn80
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Response Posted - 07/28/2005 :  22:54:10  Show Profile
I guess that means I can forget my BBQ cover . . .
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