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dalelargent
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Initially Posted - 09/17/2016 :  16:23:43  Show Profile
I bought a used assym, which came with a dousing sock already "installed."

Attached to the sail's top grommet is a very stout shackle. Attached to the top of that is a block apparatus for the sock's furling line. Attached to the top of that block is an eye to attach the halyard.

The lower shackle, attached to the sail, is a pivoting/rotating shackle, but the PO wired the pin in such a way as to prevent the shackle from freely spinning.

Question: should it spin?
1989 c25 WK/TR #5838
1998 Catalina 36 mkii
1983 Vagabond 14

Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 09/17/2016 :  17:04:00  Show Profile
If I understand you correctly, the lower pivoting/rotating shackle is attached to the tack of the sail. How did the PO attach the tack of the sail? Was a line attached to the tack of the sail, and then led through a block to a cleat, so that the tension on the tack line can be adjusted in and out, or was the tack simply shackled to the bow chainplate?

The question in my mind is, did the PO tack or gybe the assym inside the foretriangle, like a big genoa, or did he gybe it forward of the forestay? Is the block for the spin halyard, at the top of the mast, situated a couple of inches above and forward of the forestay? If so, then he probably gybed the sail forward of the forestay, in which case the tack of the sail needs to be free to turn.
Steve Milby J/24 "Captiva Wind"
previously C&C 35, Cal 25, C25 TR/FK, C22
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dalelargent
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Response Posted - 09/22/2016 :  12:20:07  Show Profile
Hi....work has had me swamped and I am finally getting back to this.

Thanks for the reply!

To clarify, the entire system I described from the PO is attached to the head of the sail.

I added a rotating shackle to the tack. I do not know the PO or what they did, but I intend to fly it on the spin halyard in front of the stay, and I will jibe it on tacks.

So, unless my answers change your answers, it sounds like I should remove the binding wire on the head shackle...and re-wire it so the shackle can rotate.

Do you think I have it right? If there is still confusion in my words, I could try to upload a pic.
1989 c25 WK/TR #5838
1998 Catalina 36 mkii
1983 Vagabond 14
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 09/22/2016 :  12:31:15  Show Profile
As I understand the setup, it sounds like you have the right idea. It seems to me that the head and tack should rotate freely when you gybe the sail. If we're wrong, you'll know for sure after you hoist the sail. You can always replace the wire if you find out why the PO put it there.
Steve Milby J/24 "Captiva Wind"
previously C&C 35, Cal 25, C25 TR/FK, C22
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dalelargent
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Response Posted - 09/22/2016 :  14:34:44  Show Profile
Oops...."gybe"

Cool...thanks for the input. I will free that shackle and hopefully have a light wind day to truly try her out.

(I don't think I ever wished for light winds before!)

I so appreciate this community!
1989 c25 WK/TR #5838
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