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Tom Potter
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Initially Posted - 08/14/2005 :  20:43:35  Show Profile
I wonder if my 150 would pull this
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/30-Catalina-Tall-Rig-Atomic-4-Gas-Motor-Low-Reserve_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ63731QQitemZ4568344447QQrdZ1

1997 250 TR WK (sold)
1984 O'Day 28 (sold)
1979 SISU 22
Bath, NC.

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At Ease
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Response Posted - 08/15/2005 :  16:52:29  Show Profile
...sure, don't forget your equalizer hitch.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 08/16/2005 :  21:23:33  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
I don't know Tom. The Evelyn 32 runs with a 350 turbo diesel. And that boat is less in weight and gear than the c-25 fully empty. I think it will really depend where, when and how often you plan on hauling this.

If your just talking about the back yard for the winter and to the marina in the summer, you'll probably be able to cut it. On the other hand, if your going to run from Cleveland to the keys, stop at charleston on the way back I think the mountains are going to dictate something a little bigger.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 08/16/2005 :  21:27:54  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
We were looking for a 30, and this guys just 40 minutes up the road. I could sail her home and take the trailer with my Land Rover or honda empty, back here to Cleveland...... If nationals weren't next year I'd get really serious about this.

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 08/16/2005 :  21:36:51  Show Profile  Visit Douglas's Homepage
10' beam will need a wide loat permit too. Your going to have to have her launched by sling.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 08/16/2005 :  21:58:56  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Actually Doug that is a state by state requirement. You would still need regular permits though and would have to stop at weigh stations. I know that would not be considered wide load in Ohio during the day. If I recall, West Virginia and maybe PA (not sure) are the only ones in this neck of the woods that would require wide load at 10 feet, but I'd have to double check. I know the first year we took the big boat down to Key West we weren't legal for a couple of states out of ignorance. We were legal by the ride home though.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 08/16/2005 :  22:11:19  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
Anything over 8'6" is a wide load on Interstates......

But, there is a service that will take your filed route and return you a pile of permits all in sequence with restrictions in the triptik........forgot their name.

My biggest question is the height!!!!!! Watch that bridge/gas station canopy!!!

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 08/16/2005 :  22:42:09  Show Profile
I believe that permit service would be Comdata, we use them for our tractor trailer rigs. My 250 WK is 12'6" high, from the looks of that C30 its well above the 13"6'.

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Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 08/17/2005 :  15:37:42  Show Profile
I have seen a C30 on a triple axle trailer at Anacortes waiting to be put in by the travel lift. The gentleman was pulling with a Dodge 3/4 ton, diesel. He was coming from Spokane, said the rig pulled with no problem. I tried to trade Yahoo for his boat, no deal. The mast was on a tabernacle and he raised it using an A frame and a winch mounted on the bow support of the trailer. He would bring the boat to Anacortes for the summer and haul her back for the winter. If I could squeeze a C30 into my 10 foot wide slip I would be tempted......

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Response Posted - 08/19/2005 :  20:43:56  Show Profile
When I bought my C320, the dealer moved it with a triple axle trailer and a one ton diesel dually. When I questioned the ability of the truck/trailer he said C350s and smaller go the same way. Don't know the stats on the 350, but the 320 weighs 12,000 empty with a 12' beam.

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 08/20/2005 :  08:54:16  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
A good friend of mine keeps his Santa Cruz 40 on a trailer in a pole barn during the winter months and hauls it 20 miles to a lift facility to put it in the water. He pulls it with a Toyota - something or other. Crazy but he's done it every year for the past five years.

Bayliner boats has a section of their web site which provides towing widths and heights by state and the towing capabiity of over 500 vehicles. I don't believe their is a state that allows a beam over 8'3" w/o a permit or height more than 13'6".

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 08/21/2005 :  16:19:58  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
I stand corrected. (actually I'm sitting) The Evelyn did require wide load permits, but was still small enough that it did not need a support vehicle.

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coach
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Response Posted - 08/22/2005 :  08:52:54  Show Profile

I had a friend take his boat over to Lake Erie for a weekend getaway. He was pulled over in Ohio for not having a wide load permit and it measured 9 feet 10 inches. He was forced to pull it into an area to sit until the proper paperwork was filed. Completely ruined the weekend.

In Indiana, 10 feet requires a permit and you are not allowed on the road after dusk...which I assume is the same in every state with wide loads after dusk.

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Ben
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Response Posted - 08/22/2005 :  15:41:49  Show Profile
Get a load of this trailer sailor. I've never heard of a boat this big being ramp launched.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 08/22/2005 :  16:04:17  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
Some yards have a big ass ramp to accomodate a hydraulic trailer. The support pads actually retract and then extend hydraulically to suppor the boat. Professional haulers utilize them. This one is good to 50 feet. Around thirty large if your interested.....

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Response Posted - 08/22/2005 :  20:05:11  Show Profile
At my marina, a ramp is it...there is no other way. Biggest sailboat I have seen launched was a C38...the front wheels of the 18 wheeler's tractor were in water before it came off the trailer and started floating.

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