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Ben - FL
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Initially Posted - 09/25/2005 :  00:32:38  Show Profile  Visit Ben - FL's Homepage
Now the Admiral will have to salute when she says Oh Captain My Captain.


Safe voyages,
Ben
sloop Chick-a-pea,
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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 09/25/2005 :  07:47:08  Show Profile
Congratulations Ben! That's quite an accomplishment!

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 09/25/2005 :  08:50:10  Show Profile  Visit Leon Sisson's Homepage
Outstanding Ben! Congratulations!

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 09/25/2005 :  09:15:13  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Okay - now start to finish, what did you have to do to accomplish this, what were the costs, how much time did you invest and what was the most difficult part.


Congratulations by the way.

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tinob
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Response Posted - 09/25/2005 :  09:39:20  Show Profile
Great job Ben, congratulations.

Val on Calista # 3936

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 09/25/2005 :  10:24:28  Show Profile
Does this mean that your going to start charging your passengers?

congratulations!

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 09/25/2005 :  11:26:07  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
Congratulations.....putting my paperwork in Monday....

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 09/25/2005 :  15:09:17  Show Profile
Outstanding Ben, I know it was a lot of hard work.
Another first for FLEET 25, we are all proud of you!!!!!

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At Ease
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Response Posted - 09/25/2005 :  15:11:23  Show Profile
Congratulations...does it lower your insurance premiums?

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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 09/25/2005 :  15:28:13  Show Profile  Visit Ben - FL's Homepage
Duane,
This started last summer when I finally decided to spend $600 on school at [url="http://www.bluewatermaritimeschool.com/"]Blue Water Maritime School.[/url] It was four hours a night- two nights a week- four or five weeks. I remember I missed the first class because Hurricane Francis had just tore through here. My instructor is one of the captains of the Mayport Ferry. Wayne is his name and he was very good. The classes were the funnest and easiest of the process. We studied a subject such as weather or navigation and then took the test at the end or whenever everyone agreed they were ready. There were only four of us in the class. One guy wanted to be a fishing guide and "he didn't need to know all this stuff. All he had to do was look around and he knew what his position was." And there were two brothers, both lawyers. The younger had just bought a 65' aluminum sailboat that was in very bad repair apparently. But he could not even tie a reef knot. But the class was set up so you could not possibly fail. I did 100% except for one question on a chart I understood to be a logical question and not an actual position. The school also did our FIRST AID and CPR certifications. With the diploma from the school you don't have to take the exam with the [url="http://www.uscg.mil/stcw/"]Coast Guard.[/url] Then all you need are a complete physical with sight and hearing, a drug test (make sure it is the one they require, I had mine done with the physical so I wouldn't have to pay for it but it was not acceptable.) Three letters of character reference and the hard part of figuring out your sea time experience of 360 8hr days ninety of which have to be in the past three years. Make an appointment at a regional exam center and then wait... & wait... & wait... &... finally it comes in the mail!!!

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 09/25/2005 :  16:16:41  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Can you elaborate on the sea time requirement? does it have to be with a certain amount of tonnage etc?

How did you find out aboout the school - I'd need to find one in my area...

That sounds like so much fun, congratulations again.

dw

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 09/25/2005 :  16:20:15  Show Profile
Congrat's Ben!

Did the lawyer learn how to tie a reef knot?

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 09/25/2005 :  20:22:49  Show Profile
One more item to check off your list of things you're going to accomplish. Congratulations.

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cathluk
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Response Posted - 09/25/2005 :  21:13:02  Show Profile
Congratulations Ben!

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 09/26/2005 :  07:16:26  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Congratulations! Regardless of the rigor of the schooling, you set a goal and you nailed it.

Many of us could learn a lesson from Captain Ben.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 09/26/2005 :  07:53:29  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
Huge Congrats Ben, I have a feeling that you left out a lot of the effort that went into the certification that was beyond the classroom time.

Great to know that we have such expertise in our midst (ok, just north of us.)

Does your family get you back now?


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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 09/26/2005 :  12:42:57  Show Profile  Visit Ben - FL's Homepage
The sea time has to be 360 days, 90 of which are in the last 3 years in the waters you want licensure for and appropriate tonnage. There are Inland Waters, Near Coastal, Inland Rivers, and Great Lakes. If you are using your own boat for sea time you need proof of ownership. If using others you need a form filled out by the captain of that boat. I have kept a journal for my boats and it was a good thing. And I went to the DMV here to pull my old boat registrations and copied them. The best thing about the school was it gives you a chance to ask lots of questions. The weather videos were pretty good. The OUPV license is good up to 100 ton. I have two friends who are lisenced Master which is for inspected vessels and they said the extra redtape was not worth it. All this stuff comes under the CFR 46 - Code of Federal Regulations title 46 which was written by lawyers for lawyers.

The younger of the lawyer brothers finally passed his last test and then turned to the instructor and said, "I want to hire you to be my captain." I 'bout fell out on the floor laughing 'cause he was serious. Wayne looked at him and said (pointing to me) "Here's the guy you need to hire."

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pwhallon
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Response Posted - 09/26/2005 :  16:46:23  Show Profile
Congratulatiuons Ben.

A great accomplishment.

PW

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 09/27/2005 :  23:06:46  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The OUPV license is good up to 100 ton.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

I heard 25......darn, where do I look THAT up...

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tmhansen
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Response Posted - 09/28/2005 :  02:42:33  Show Profile  Visit tmhansen's Homepage
Ben thanks for the kick in the butt to get my log up to date. It pretty easy with my GPS as long as I save my tracks. I don't get to sail as often as I would like but I was surprised by how many hours I had accumulated since I started my log ( 138) since I got the GPS I also keep track of total miles - this year we have 236 miles under the keel, (not counting highway miles). That was really a surprise to me.

Can you clarify what they mean by an 8 hour day. Do they only count time underway, as I have been doing, or time on the water. For instance if we launch friday night anchor out and sail for 4 hours on Saturday and 4 on Sunday before pulling out again have I just spent one 8 hour day or 2 since I was on the boat the whole time - say 48 hours?

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 09/28/2005 :  15:19:12  Show Profile
Here's some info on a 6 pack school. I checked into this one, its 9 days long and cost $450. There are others out there.

http://www.seaschool.com/

Here's the form they use to document your sea time.
http://www.uscg.mil/stcw/download-docs/cg719s.pdf

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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 10/02/2005 :  13:43:10  Show Profile  Visit Ben - FL's Homepage
Sorry about the late reply. My wife and I have been to Disney World and camping this past week. We took the 3 & 1/2 yr old granddaughter to see Mickey!

Most of the documentation is for those who work on vessels as a career. So they want to know how many work days you've spent aboard. Thus the 8 hours. There is some clarification about overtime I read somewhere. But even if the vessel is not underway you can still be working aboard her. Cooks, radiomen, deckhands, engine room and masters all have to document their time on inspected vessels apparently.

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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 10/03/2005 :  18:56:07  Show Profile  Visit Ben - FL's Homepage
Hi All - this is the Admiral. I just wanted to say how very proud I am for Ben completing this goal of his. He is a very worthy seaman and sailor. I wish for him all his dreams for sailing come true even if it means he is away for short stints. He loves the sea and the feel of the sheets in the wind. Loves to feel that boat beneath him and the power of the natural movement of it. I am proud of you honey. I wish only for your joy.

This is what happens when you leave your computer up...

Admiral Bonnie Lee of the Chicopea
Happy sailing everyone!

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 10/06/2005 :  22:14:22  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
Got mine too!! Now I have to go find a commercial random drug testing purveyor....

Captain Oscar, USCG/OUPV
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Chesapeake/Fort Lauderdale

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