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Esteban
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Initially Posted - 10/03/2005 : 16:02:07

...is what I'm looking for and have had zero luck.

Anyone have any luck having trailer built? Are there plans available out there somewhere? I'm amazed taht I can't find one used.

Esteban Diaz
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ajski1000
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Response Posted - 10/03/2005 : 17:05:32

I looked into this spring, most all of the trailer dealers i called were able to put a package together. All you should need are the boat specifications. Good luck

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tingwc
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Response Posted - 10/03/2005 : 19:47:46

i found a website http://www.triadtrailers.com/ and they quoted me a price of $3400 for a new trailer. unfortunatley, that's a little more than i wanted to spend, but hopefully that's a start for you. if you find anything better, let us know... i would definately be interested!

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Response Posted - 10/03/2005 : 20:40:02

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by tingwc
 i found a website http://www.triadtrailers.com/ and they quoted me a price of $3400 for a new trailer. unfortunatley, that's a little more than i wanted to spend, but hopefully that's a start for you. if you find anything better, let us know... i would definately be interested!
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That is a steal from an excellent company, that is half the price of a new one from TrailRite and a better product.

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pjeffarch
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Response Posted - 10/03/2005 : 22:21:31

Great resource...and a fun site to look through the pictures!

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thaind
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Response Posted - 10/04/2005 : 07:32:32

Can you weld? my trailer is as old as the boat and is made from mobile home axles. I have seen this construction criticized on this forum, but mine is great and PO towed from NH to Florida each winter. I only towed from NY to Ontario. Will measure up for you if interested. It must weigh a ton though, and with steel at about $.60 a pound in my area and other costs $3400 may not be such a bad deal (wince).

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Gambit
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Response Posted - 10/04/2005 : 13:15:10

Check the swap forum, there was a trailer listed on 9/23 and it does not yet appear to have sold. He is asking $1,000 I believe, the trailer is in California. There appears to be some interest so you might want to jump on it. Good luck!

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mwalkup
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Response Posted - 10/04/2005 : 13:35:30

Ya know I can weld and soon will have a small shop to do such a thing.
I've often wondered why with the right specs. one couldn't build a trailer for the various Catalinas we have, be it the fin, wing or swing.

A combination of aluminum, steel and or galvanived steel could be used.
The axle setup would have to be purchased somewhere, but other than that the brakes,lights,hitch with an extension bar and the hull supports could be constructed without an engineers degree I would think. Granted it would have to meet and preferably exceed load/strength requirments.
Heck you could even use an older Catalina trailer for a proto type and maybe even improve upon it.
Of course the question is would it be cost effective. It seeems in most manufacturing to keep the cost down, the more you make the cheaper you can do it for and it usually becomes easier to put together.
I wonder if we have enough Catalina's floating around out there with no trailer to call their own, to warrant a market for this product in the let's say $2500. to $3500. range.
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Mike
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tingwc
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Response Posted - 10/04/2005 : 16:35:39

Mike, I'd definately be interested in something like that if your future shop can handle such a task. What is your timeframe? I'm certain there is someone who can provide pictures and measurements of their trailer.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 10/04/2005 : 19:31:49

Along the same lines, I know we have a number of members and sailors just South of here on Atwood Lake. I'd be interested to see who there has a trailer and who will be coming to nationals. Also - do any of you down there not have a trailer, I'd love to get some trailer sharing going on so that we can get a awesom turnout.

I also agree with Hopper's assessment of Triad...top notch

Mike - I don't have a trailer, and ditched the cradle a few years back for jack stands.

dw

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mwalkup
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Response Posted - 10/12/2005 : 10:27:15

Sorry guy's it's taken me awhile to get back, always something going on it seems.
I'm hoping to finish up on the free standing garage/workshop in Nov.

Tingwc, at some point when time allows I'd really like to tackle the trailer issue. As it stands now I have no pressing need or the time, with the workshop project going on.
It's just always amazed me so many Catalina owners have no trailer or access to one unfortunatly.
Today I have an appointment to visit a fella that builds custom trailers for different business's with specific applications.
He told me straight out when I mentioned the Catalina trailer situation that he did not build boat trailers nor was he interested in doing so. Still I figure it can't hurt to see his operation and perhaps pick up some worthwhile information.

Duane keeping you boat on jack stands must mean you store it in a yard and have it travel-lifted in spring/summer. Is that right.
Mike
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 10/12/2005 : 15:22:18

Yeah Mike - we do

okay some someone shoot this theory down for me because it seems to good to be true...

Get a trailer that can hold about 7000 lb's - Weld a cradle to it?

Trailer said boat - remember I rarely trailer anything and if I do its not my boat or problem, so help me see why this sounds too easy to be true.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 10/12/2005 : 16:08:14

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Duane Wolff
 okay some someone shoot this theory down for me because it seems to good to be true...

Get a trailer that can hold about 7000 lb's - Weld a cradle to it?

Trailer said boat - remember I rarely trailer anything and if I do its not my boat or problem, so help me see why this sounds too easy to be true.

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This is pretty much how larger boats are trailered. Aren't all Catalina's delivered via a cradle on a flat bed?

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 10/12/2005 : 22:00:39

Duane, there are at least a dozen trailers exactly like that at our club. If your club has a hoist it is perfect.

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Esteban
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Response Posted - 10/13/2005 : 15:08:53

We're talking about the four post cradle? Is that sufficient support for the boat while on the road? I love the idea!

Just might be my answer.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 10/13/2005 : 16:12:27

I think our old trailer had bunks that ran the length.... I'd have to see if I could even find the darned thing

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Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 10/13/2005 : 16:46:55

Don't forget that trailerablity and launch-ability are inter-related. I consider my C25 trailable because I can retrieve, move from one point to another, and launch without the need of a hoist. Don't get me wrong, I have used a hoist, specifically in Anacortes, Washington, but absolutely needing a hoist makes the boat not really trailerable in my humble opinion. A boat in a cradle on a trailer doesn't meet the definition.

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Esteban
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Response Posted - 10/14/2005 : 16:21:10

Yup - I know what you mean Ed. My boat is in another state where I use a Dry-Sail option, meaning it sits on a cradle and the marina puts in the water any time I use it. It's a nice option not having to worry about the boat when you can't check on it from 90 miles away.

The cradle on a flatbed option might work well for me in order to bring it home for the winter to work on it.

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mwalkup
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Response Posted - 10/15/2005 : 09:43:26

Ed,
I couldn't agree more. While I think both the trailer and cradle options have their advantages, the trailers certainly give one a degree of freedom not achieved with a cradle.

Like the ditty goes "if I was a rich man - rich man" I'd like to have both, with my own travel-lift to give the neighborhood kids a ride on when I wasn't using it to move my baby. But for now I'm after a trailer.
By the way what does a cradle for our boats go for, and any idea of their weight?
MIke
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jlguthri
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Response Posted - 10/22/2005 : 23:52:05

Here is my endevors to make a trailer.
Comments are welcome
http://westmouthbay.com/?p=36

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Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 10/23/2005 : 00:12:13

Joshua, Looks like a nice trailer and I could sure use the flat deck for other applications when not carrying the boat. Have you considered connecting the forward to aft supports with bunk boards? And of course make sure everything is well connected to the trailer. Going around corners could be more exciting then your heart can take with the boat's high center of gravity on the stands.

Good luck with the project.

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JaimeZX
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Response Posted - 10/23/2005 : 00:45:07

I look forward to seeing the results of this as well! I've had similar thoughts about "building a trailer" that way if I can't find a boat that comes with one. Please keep us informed!

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 10/23/2005 : 05:10:24

try boatsforless.com

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rich
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Response Posted - 10/23/2005 : 05:13:40

A homemade trailer made from a cradle is what we have. We own a swing keel.
The trailer part has a place for the bow and a wench to help position the boat correctly on the cradle (I use neither to pull the boat forward-boat is floating). I need more water depth than with a good trailer so an extender is used. To launch/retreive the Catalina 25 once a year this works ok although I take more time especially getting the boat out than I would with a trailer. $3500 or so seems like a good investment if you plan on taking the boat out very often. Some day in the future I will probably invest in a trailer although what I have is working. So I guess my input on the trailer/cradle question is a qualified ok--It works for me even if it is a little bit more work. We have no lift at our lake so you make do with whatever you can to have a sailboat in the water. A trailer is a-- where do I store it most of the year--kind of thing for me as the dry sail area is less than two miles from the launching ramp. I hope this input helps in the discussion. I am a little envious when I hear of all the lifts/marina with facilities talked about in this discussion but $310 per year for a mooring (what we pay) makes me feel a little better

Rich

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jlguthri
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Response Posted - 01/16/2006 : 17:14:14

I finally got my boat pulled up and placed on my homemade trailer. here is a link to the pix

http://westmouthbay.com/?p=36

yipeee

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