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takokichi
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Initially Posted - 10/16/2005 : 17:53:14

http://assumedrisk.blogspot.com

Dang this is a lot of work!

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 10/17/2005 : 07:40:33

contact cement question from your site -

Sand it down and paint over it with a 2 part epoxy. You won't even need to remove all of it, just smooth it over. The Evely 32 I race had the same problem, now the interior is a nice off white.

dw

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takokichi
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Response Posted - 10/17/2005 : 12:09:09

Any two part will stick to it, or do I need something special?

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 10/18/2005 : 08:40:01

I hope you stole that boat. I could not go through what you are having to do.
They are good fast boats, a friend traded up from a Ranger 22 to an Evelyn 26 and he loved the boat.
I hope you kick some but next season. You will have earned it several times over.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 10/18/2005 : 23:25:18

http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base/Removing_Old_Laminate_and_Contact_Cement.html

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 10/19/2005 : 07:30:58

To be honest, I'm not sure what they used as a interior paint on the Evelyn 32. I do remember re-doing the deck, much the same way you are right now. Instead of racing Wed nights throughout the winter, we went to the owners farm and worked in his barn till about midnight for an entire winter. (not that we could race up here anyway at that time)

While your messing around, check the rigidity of your keel, we re-epoxied it with Carbon Fiber and refaired the entire keel.

I'll make a few calls and see what we used.

dw

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takokichi
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Response Posted - 10/19/2005 : 12:15:08

Thanks for the input so far guys!

Yep, just about stole the boat. And frankly, for us its pure race boat, so if it takes a while to finish the interior, I'm not that stressed about it. My plan for this winter is to stip the contact cement and stop there. Next winter the whole thing will get painted (after I find the remaining wet spots I _know_ have to be there but haven't located yet). At that time we'll spray the interior as well.

I went to Newport to hate this boat - but figured for the price I had to at least look. This was after the other boat fell through. During the test sail we were doing almost 6 knots boat speed in a little over 6 true, hard on the wind. Had to foot a looong time to get the speed up, but once it was cooking and the apparent breaze came up, we could point like hell. The review referred to climbing to windward like a sailplane on a thermal. That's understating it! And this with crap sails. Made an offer on the spot - vinyl headliner and all.

We plan on campaigning the boat far and wide - plan is:
Marblehead 2006
Block Island Race Week 2006
Key West Race Week 2007

Definitely stoked.

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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 10/19/2005 : 14:07:25

Hey Justin,
Think I might qualify for crew on the Marblehead and Block Island regatta after my stint on Ocean Planet this winter?

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takokichi
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Response Posted - 10/19/2005 : 14:16:31

Dude - aren't you already going to be in Florida? Just stick around for Key West. There's no party in the world like Key West Race Week!

As for quals: I think I might have to crew for you after racing OP. If you can survice that you're all set - she's a beast! I'm frigging jealous, though, I'll tell you that. Don't stick your finger in the wiring runs, btw - I did that trying to chase a wire and lost a finer nail for my trouble...

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 10/19/2005 : 21:26:49

Hey Justin, my guys fron Tsunami will be down there this year. As for me, after a year at kwrw and the following year in Charleston, the commodore is making me take at least one off with respect to long range racing.

How about you throw in a Cleveland Race Week in 06 and come and hang out with us. You'll of course be in your own PHRF fleet, but we will all be here too. It should be a pretty competitive regatta for a nice light air boat.

Also, you mentioned having to foot a long way, is it possible you were really just pinching? As Bob Evelyns boats build speed they will point a bit higher, but the groove to find between pinching and footing is real real real small. Once you find the groove, it will start to feather up higher and higher and you'll outpoint the world (or at least most of the boats in your fleet). At this point the groove gets a little bigger and easier to hold too. This would be similar to your thermal floating analogy.

It sounds like I'm splitting hairs with the semantical jargon, but once you take the helm on an Evelyn designed boat you'll know what I'm talking about. In relative terms to "full speed pointing", you might think your footing, but if you can find that groove quicker you'll be able to build that speed up. I can't explain it, but sometime next year your going to email me and say you understand and you felt it right after a tack......

I didn't see a St. Pete, any Annapolis, Charleston or Mackinaw on your hit list????

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takokichi
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Response Posted - 10/20/2005 : 11:50:56

Duane - I got a taste of what you're talking about, but didn't really get enough of a chance to know the boat to really take advantage of that pointing ability. Part of the issue was the rags - the main had holes you could stick your hand through!! We did a little boat for boat sailing against an S2 7.1 and left him for dead - which was encouraging since there are a few up here. Evelyn was WAY ahead of his time - that's for sure. These boats just fly. Its interesting to note how similar they are to other boats of the era, and how much better they perform. The 32-2 will beat up on the Olson 30, notwithstanding a lot of superficial similarity. Rumor has it Evelyn designed the boats on Electric Boat's computers after hours giving him flow modeling and VPP capabilities eons before his competition.

During our test sail I had to come out of tacks at ~ 50 degrees true, and let the boat accelerate before coming up. I think that's a function of max draft way aft in the 20 year old headsail and crummy mainsail. After about 5 lengths, the boat would be moving well enough to come up, and then it seemed I could do no wrong no matter how high I tried to point. It may sound nuts but it feels like the boat tacks through 60 apparent, max - once boat speed is back up.

Re our race schedule - we're cheap, so far! The races we're looking at all have relatively inexpensive delivery options. (We don't yet have a trailer). Key West is based on leaving the boat in Marblehead after those races, and barging the boat down with a bunch of others. We're planning to have Triad build a trailer next summer, so the 07 season may get expanded.

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Mike Mullen
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Response Posted - 10/20/2005 : 12:34:07

Try using an electric heat gun to soften and draw the contact cement out of the wood. Use a sleel bladed putty knife to scrape off the softened cement.

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takokichi
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Response Posted - 10/20/2005 : 12:39:50

Thanks, Mike. You're not the Mike I would have gone to Dublin with, are you?

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 10/20/2005 : 16:40:38

See what you can find in the way of a trailer to bring her down here for race week… It’s an inexpensive regatta and you’ll have a blast…

As for the Olson 30 – it depends on the weather. The 32-2 website has a comparison story. We’ve kicked them in and they have kicked us in. If you find the website (I couldn’t) , ignore the standings wherever you see Tsunami – We’ve never gotten the “A” crew together for the big events yet.

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