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Wires bang inside mast ... arghhh !!! (peanuts?)

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SailFisher
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Initially Posted - 05/03/2002 : 11:19:33

Hi from Boston, where our boat rocks ALOT in our slip in the Hahbah. The mast clanging is real loud and constant. People who live on the waterfront, have asked me to do something. We were not planning on taking down the mast. We will be adding peanuts to the top of the mast, unless ya'll have something better ???

SailFisher "Catalyst"
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OJ
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Response Posted - 05/03/2002 : 11:32:26

Easy solution, wrap wire-ties around the wires every 2-3', but leave the tails on the ties. Ambitious solution, install plastic conduit inside the mast. Less romantic solution - confine love making to somewhere other than the boat <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> .

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 05/03/2002 : 14:25:37

Sailfisher - are you sure that it's the wires INSIDE the mast clanking. Are your halyards securely bungied to pull them away from the mast? IMHO that's a much more likely cause - just walk around any marina on a windy day and listen to the chorus! If you have internal halyards, just trimming them board tight should help.
Derek on "This Side Up"

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/03/2002 : 14:32:25

I agree with Derek, I can't see the wire inside the mast clanking that much. Its secured at the top with a light, in the middle with a light and at the bottom with a plug into the deck. It most likely moves as one with the mast.

I would be willing to bet its the halyards. With external halyards we used to cleat them off to a stanchion away from the mast and then cleat them to a rail cleat or the like. Board Tight, as Derek said above, is important. With internals, we use one as a boom lift, and two go forward to the bow. Or pole lift gets cleated to a stanchion.

I've seen others just use a bungie cord to pull them away from the mast, even other people do a reverse wrap around the spreader.

I can almost gurantee you its not the electric, and if it is, you sure have some large wire in there.

Duane Wolff
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coldducks
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Response Posted - 05/03/2002 : 18:08:33

where in boston harbor are you? we are in boston too. boston harbor boat yard and marina. (i agree with the above comments) it is probably not inside the mast. though when you are inside the boat, it does sound like it. we use bungies and it works pretty good. the power boaters are always complaining about the clanging! so we just ask them how much gas they used last summer...gets them every time.lol

COLDDUCKS
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Response Posted - 05/03/2002 : 18:44:41

"we just ask them how much gas they used last summer"
Coldducks - that's a real mean comment to a stinkpotter! I love it!
Derek

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/03/2002 : 18:53:06

Bahston Hahbah must be a nice setting.

Do you pahk the cah in the yahd and go to the bah and have a beeya?

Don Lucier, Northstar
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Bristle
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Response Posted - 05/03/2002 : 21:27:23

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
"we just ask them how much gas they used last summer"
Coldducks - that's a real mean comment to a stinkpotter! I love it!
Derek
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A guy was still pumping gas at our club when the pump read $260, and I said, as I walked past, that for that I could buy a pretty nice new GPS! I slipped in the comment that I hadn't bought that much gas for my boat in my entire life (of 57 years)! He had bought that much only the week before...

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 SR-FK #5032 "Passage" in CT

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 05/03/2002 : 21:42:46

We were in Venice, LA when a Starship (crewed by the DEA) pulled in and took on $2500 of diesel! Apparently that sucker burns 300 gph when run flat out! It looked as if it was doing 20 knots sitting in the slip. They wouldn't let us go onboard to check her out.
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coldducks
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Response Posted - 05/03/2002 : 23:29:16

don, i have heard that all my life. i really dont think we talk like that, but maybe we do. (actually i think that is a maine accent, that gets blamed on us because we are from the northeast..but that was pretty good about the gas. shuts them up every single time...gotta go now, gotta eat my LOBSTAS...HAHAHAHAHHA

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William Matley
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Response Posted - 05/04/2002 : 21:34:59

I don't remember where I hear this but a real easy solution to wires banging inside a mast is to buy a sponge or two and stuff the sponges as far up the inside of the mast as you can. I also read that the foam pipe cover you buy, to insulate pipes works well but the sponge is just so beautifully simple, that's what I did.

Not a peep out of the wires since!

My bugaboo is when I forget to drop and wind up my flags; the wind whips the flags and strums the stays like a guitar string. Now that's noise.

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 05/06/2002 : 15:25:49

No, it really can be the wires. "Even Chance" has external halyards and the wiring slaps like crazy. In my rewiring project I've used very long cable ties, but read somewhere to put the second tie on the tail of the first, the third on the second, etc., so the four ties point different directions and hold the wires in the rough center of the mast.

The mast isn't up yet, so I haven't had the chance to see how it works.

Brooke

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Ed Montague
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Response Posted - 05/06/2002 : 15:59:11

I used the wire tie trick and it works well. I like the sponge idea for the quick fix, no need to pull the wires to put on the wire ties. My family and I were moored just outside of Avalon Harbor on Catalina Island a few years ago. The gentle rolling of the boat from the ocean swell made the internal mast wires slap all night long. About drove me crazy!!! I'm sure that the neighboring boats couldn't hear the slapping noise from inside the mast.

Ed Montague on 'Yahoo'
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/06/2002 : 16:34:19

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
I don't remember where I hear this but a real easy solution to wires banging inside a mast is to buy a sponge or two and stuff the sponges as far up the inside of the mast as you can.
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William,

Originally, Catalina tied spongey foam to the wire...

DW

Duane Wolff
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John Mason
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Response Posted - 05/07/2002 : 15:09:21

How would you get the peanuts in the top of the mast?

John Mason - Ali Paroosa
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/07/2002 : 16:26:04

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
How would you get the peanuts in the top of the mast?

John Mason - Ali Paroosa
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Good point John, you would have to take off the mastehead...which means upper shrouds and stays...which means mast couldn't be up....

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John Mason
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Response Posted - 05/07/2002 : 16:53:56

Not to mention the halyard you'd be hanging from.

John Mason - Ali Paroosa
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/07/2002 : 17:00:58

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
Not to mention the halyard you'd be hanging from.

John Mason - Ali Paroosa
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I gave them the benefit of assuming they were using the local dry sail coffing lift hoist....

Duane Wolff
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OJ
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Response Posted - 05/07/2002 : 20:03:59

I'd fill my shop vac with the peanuts, put the hose in the exhaust hole, strap it to my back, shimmy up the mast and let'er rip! <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 05/07/2002 : 21:38:23

Maybe you could use an elephant to inject the peanuts. . . .

On the other hand, if you were going to use jelly with it, would it have to be naval jelly?

Brooke

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Bristle
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Response Posted - 05/07/2002 : 21:49:48

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
I'd fill my shop vac with the peanuts, put the hose in the exhaust hole, strap it to my back, shimmy up the mast and let'er rip! <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Shimmy up, huh?? We'd like to see a pic of you "shimmied" to the masthead!

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 SR-FK #5032 "Passage" in CT

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OJ
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Response Posted - 05/08/2002 : 08:59:19

I'd be wearing my new Spider Man outfit <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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John Mason
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Response Posted - 05/10/2002 : 15:58:38

Duane,
Are you in one of those high-falutin' marinas<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>? I've never seen or heard of a... <BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>local dry sail coffing lift hoist....<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

John Mason - Ali Paroosa
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jm
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Response Posted - 05/10/2002 : 16:57:25

Ouch ! OJ - how much shimmying could you be doing with a hose in your exhaust hole? !

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/13/2002 : 08:19:18

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
Duane,
Are you in one of those high-falutin' marinas<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>? I've never seen or heard of a... <BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>local dry sail coffing lift hoist....<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

John Mason - Ali Paroosa
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John,

Its kind of a run on with a new word sort of jammed together. I have the problem of typing about 4 to 5 sentences behind what my brain is thinking....(and I don't type too slowly either (70wpm))

Most of the Marina's and Yacht clubs have a coffing lift (usually 2 or 3) for their J 22's, J-24's , thistles, star boats etc. Most also have a hoist/crane to do top of the mast work on the big PHRF boats as well. I kind of combined the two..

Don't I wish it was High Falutin'. (I will be in one of those next year, which, after investigation is cheaper than where I am as long as I stay 6 years or more.

DW

dw

Duane Wolff
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