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tinob
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Initially Posted - 01/22/2006 : 13:25:05

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tinob
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Response Posted - 01/22/2006 : 13:42:33

Sorry about that post folks. I uploaded several pics of my Nissan tilt mechanism to Shutterfly and then got lost trying to follow Don's proceedure for posting them here. That's why I'm reluctant to post photos.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT # 3936

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Response Posted - 01/22/2006 : 13:51:01

Val, If you e-mail the pictures to me I will post them.

Picture-1 (MVC-001F.JPG)

Picture-2 (MVC-002F.JPG)

Picture-3 (MVC-004F.JPG)

Picture-4 (deleted on 1/23/06)
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tinob
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Response Posted - 01/23/2006 : 09:10:29

I want to thank Russ Johnson for getting these pictures on the forum. I was able to upload them to Shutterfly but wasn't able to send them to the forum.

The first picture shows the end of the throttle wire wrapped around the tilt lever. Missing is the rubber cover for the tilt lever.

The second shows the entire throttle mechanism. The metal strap bent around the throttle cable housing is adjustable so that it may be slid into position and mounted on the bottom of the motor mount board in alignment with the tilt lever.

The third picture is of the selection method to tilt up or down.

The remaining pictures are unnecessary butttttt.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT # 3936 Patchogue, N.Y.

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Response Posted - 01/23/2006 : 10:15:42

Your set up is different from mine. I received my Nissan last year, so it may be a 2005 or 2004 model. I"m not sure. My throttle is on the tiller, and the gear shifter is on the starboard side of the engine. They must have done something different after my engine's model year, because I've never had a problem tilting my Nissan while I know you've had some difficulties.

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Response Posted - 01/23/2006 : 14:09:13

Hi Ben,

Lest we get tangled up in seamanly terms

looking at my motor(2005)the tiller is on the right with throttle and gear shifting on the left. And if you don't have a problem tilting I'd like to see a photo of your tilt setup.

Does my first picture look as your does?

Val

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Response Posted - 01/23/2006 : 14:14:35

Boy that's an awkward sentence when the comma is omitted after the word throttle. The tiller with throttle on the right and the gear shift on the left

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Response Posted - 01/24/2006 : 10:04:11

Hi Val,

I'll try to take pictures of my engine tonight and post the pictures so we can see if and how my engine is different from yours.

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Response Posted - 01/25/2006 : 11:50:04

Hi Ben,

That should do it, the pictures that is,...do you have problems posting photos? It drives me to distraction trying. Today I followed Don's proceedure and finally got a picture to appear in the test forum, "BUT" it's a thumbnail and try as I might it stays as such.

It's rather comical, that after fourty years as art teacher, I've just learned to cut and paste here.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT # 3936 Patchogue, N.Y.

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Response Posted - 01/25/2006 : 14:21:59

Hi Val,

I've never had a problem posting pictures here. I use Shutterfly to host the images,which works out pretty well for me.

I forgot to take pictures of the engine last night, I'll try to remember tonight.

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Response Posted - 01/25/2006 : 14:50:07

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by tinob
 ...Today I followed Don's proceedure and finally got a picture to appear in the test forum, "BUT" it's a thumbnail and try as I might it stays as such.

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Val,

If you use the thumbnail view of the picture in shutterfly to get the URL, you'll get the thumbnail view in your post. To get the larger picture URL, first click on the shutterfly thumbnail to get the larger picture, then copy the URL of this larger picture.

Another way to change the size of your Shutterfly photo is to change the fourth to last digit to a 6 (in red)

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6df03b3127cce9686bfb5f58100000020108AZNGbhq0Zs_

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6df03b3127cce9686bfb5f58100000026108AZNGbhq0Zs_

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Response Posted - 01/26/2006 : 07:53:35

Here are pictures of my Nissan/Tohatsu engine and the tilt mechanism. I hope these pictures are helpful.

This picture is an expanded view.

This pictures is closer, with the tilt lever circled in Red.

This is the other side of the engine.

Front

Throttle

When I tilt my engine, I have to pivot the engine either port or starboard, then I can pull on the lever and haul the back of the engine up. I then have to make sure that I push the lever back down before I rest the engine in the tilted-up position. To lower the engine, I do the reverse. It is somewhat of an acrobatic feat, but it's better than what I had before.

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Response Posted - 01/26/2006 : 09:07:17

Thanks Don,Ben,

Don, That's exactly what I did. I'll try enlarging the Shutterfly thumbnail...the red numbers I'll pass on.

Somehow I managed to change my wallpaper to the picture of the Nissan tilt lever.

Now that's enlargement...don't ask how I did it. I haven't a clue.

Did I mention that I'm PC challenged? Probably wasn't necessary to do so, it being so obvious.

Ben, Your engine is essentially the same as mine except for the shift being on the side. My shift is in front.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT # 3936 Patchogue, N.Y.

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Response Posted - 01/26/2006 : 10:33:09

Don't believe I ever tried pivoting our '05 Nissan before trying to tilt it. Thanks, Ben!
BTW, ours looks same as in your photos.

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Response Posted - 01/26/2006 : 19:39:26

On the Nissan/Tohatsu you do not have to pull the tilt lever up when raising the motor. The motor will do that for you. However you do have to push it down to lock the motor in the up position, unless you add a small bungee cord to the tilt lever. If you do the tilt lever will be pulled to the locked position as soon as the engine is up.

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Response Posted - 01/27/2006 : 12:59:53

Hi Jerry, and to lower the motor you???

My problem is with holding the motor up and reaching to do something with the tilt lever. Arms aren't long enough.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT # 3936 Patchogue N.Y.

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Response Posted - 01/27/2006 : 23:43:42

To lower you do have to pull the lever up to release. If you are having trouble reaching may I offer a suggestion of attaching a small piece of line to the tilt lever that you can tie to the aft starboard pulpit. Then once the motor is up and locked you can take the weight off the tilt lock and pull on the line to lift the lever up then lower the engine. Again to raise and lock just pull the motor up and let the bungee do the rest. I know having to modify a new motor seems dumb, but think of how long the C25 has been on the market and sailors are still making mods to improve the sailing performance.

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Response Posted - 01/28/2006 : 08:23:27

Frog, the string thing was my first attempt to control the tilting, but this only added to the frustration of having to deal with a poorly designed structure, hanging strings were a no no learned in Navy Boot Camp. And so the throttle cable device that I rigged lets me pretend that the motor designers did their job well. Plus the operating end of the mechanism is right there on the stern pulpit, no bending needed.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT # 3936 Patchogue, N.Y.

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Response Posted - 01/28/2006 : 10:04:07

Val, I like the throttle cable idea. Do you have any pictures that show the complete routing? I would be interested in giving it a shot. As my age advances I'm sure it won't be long before reaching down could become a problem for me. I'm presently working on a shifter situp so I don't have to keep reaching back and down to move the shifter. The newer models with the shifter in the front would be great, but not the expense since my motor is only two years old. The Mercury's with the shifter in the tiller is the best IMHO.

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Response Posted - 01/28/2006 : 10:20:43

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by frog0911
 The Mercury's with the shifter in the tiller is the best IMHO.
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I'll second that! I also like the no-lever grab-and-tilt function.

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Response Posted - 01/28/2006 : 12:37:38

It's sad to see a fine motor like the Nissan stuck with what is obviously some design engineer's way to save five bucks in production cost. Probably got a bonus and promotion.

James

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tinob
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Response Posted - 01/28/2006 : 15:26:04

You're right James, that's what it cost me to make the tilt cable gadget.

Don, I'd like to take this oportunity to thank you for all your help posting pictures here...any shortcomings that I had were my problem and in no way reflects on your assistance.

I reread some of my posts and it occured to me that what I said might have been construed that way. Sorry if it was taken that way.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT # 3936 Patchogue, N>Y>

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Response Posted - 01/28/2006 : 15:43:07

Jerry,

I'l third your preference for the Mercury's configurations of manipulatives used to operate their motor.

The motor is in the garage until spring at which point I'll put it on the boat and attach the throttl cable /tilt thingie.

It's simple really, the metal piece of flat stock is screwed into the bottom of the motor mount board loosely until the coiled wire is attached to the tilt lever then the screws are snugged up gripping the cable cover holding it in adjustment. Then the lever end of the thing is routed in whatever fashion makes the most sense to you. I'm going to mount it on the stern pulpit first, but I've already conceived of a way to mount it to the motor frame in an easily accessible location.

If you like I'll take pictures of it on the boat and post them here( I hope)

Val on the hard DAGNABIT # 3936 Patchogue, N.Y.

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Response Posted - 01/28/2006 : 16:58:53

You're welcome Val, and concerning your picture posting troubles, I never thought for a moment you were directing any frustrations my way.

Good luck in future picture postings!

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Response Posted - 01/28/2006 : 19:22:09

Will be awaiting the pictures. Meanwhile I have plenty of other projects to keep me busy like shore power, additionial batteries etc. etc. etc.

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Response Posted - 01/29/2006 : 09:39:29

Val, I was thinking of one of the two holes in the carrying handle bracket for the mounting spot for your tilt-lock control handle. That would put the handle up-front. What about using the ground-wire bolt to secure your tab on the other end? (I'm just unsure about loosening anything). Then you wouldn't have to disconnect your rig when removing the motor.

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