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existentialsailor
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Initially Posted - 02/11/2006 : 18:58:21

So are these places that buy old sails worth the trouble, or should I just use them for tarps?

Rick

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/11/2006 : 19:26:38

What do you have rick...

I'm looking for a racing jib - list luff and foot measurements

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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 02/12/2006 : 06:06:59

Duane,
These are the original sails that came with the Capri. They are North Sails, 24 years old and pretty well beat to you know what. That's why I asked, I'm not even sure they are worth shipping to a used sail loft.
I am unable to measure them at present as they are rolled up and packed away and we are in the middle of a blizzard here so I can't unroll them outside to take measurements. They are all hank ons if that makes a difference.

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Mark Loyacano
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Response Posted - 02/12/2006 : 07:50:36

Rick, old worn out sails make excellent duffle bags. They are easy to make: two or three circles of cloth for the reinforced bottom, a rectangle, to a depth that suits your needs stiched around the bottom and a bit of line stiched into the the top (for a drawstring). Voila...

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Response Posted - 02/12/2006 : 08:28:09

Old Sail Ties for Handles.

I'm actually working on getting a sail maker to make a bunch of these bags as nationals give-aways. I haven't heard from him yet, but if he does I'll need an old sail or two. Not sure Why I didn't think of that in my first reply.

And Rick, your old beat up racing sails are 3 million times better than what I'm using.

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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 02/12/2006 : 09:29:31

Duane,

Don't count on them being better, the original owner of this boat raced her a lot and raced her hard!

I'll see if Jan will help me unroll them in the living room later today and we can measure them.

Right now, I need to get back out to the snowblower, just came in to warm up the hands. We are getting gusts of 35 mph here already, going to be drifts everywhere!

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/12/2006 : 09:35:58

We are getting a bunch of Lake Effect Snow here, stay warm.

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Response Posted - 02/12/2006 : 11:58:56

Rick,

As Duane W pointed out, <i>"...pretty well beat to you know what.</i>" is s relative statement of condition.

Here's what I would suggest. Check some of the used sail brokerage websites. Study their descriptions of how to objectively evaluate the condition of a used sail. (Their business depends on having commonly understood and easily applied standards.) Measure and objectively evaluate your old sails. Then post an ad for them in our Swap Meet section. Some of the older C-25s, etc. change hands in deplorable condition.

Any sail that fits and can be hoisted in one piece might be an improvement over what someone has now.

-- Leon Sisson

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/12/2006 : 12:39:54

or if they don't fit my boat for racing, you can give them to me and we can make bags out of them for the nationals participants.

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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 02/12/2006 : 13:53:30

Approximate Sizes: North main sail: Luff: 25' 8"; Leech 27'; Foot: 9' This sail has a bolt rope foot. It needs cleaning.

Headsail: This is a laminated sail, much of the lamination is coming off. The material below the laminations is as light as my spinnaker material. Not sure this sail is even servicable. The size of it indicates it's a 155% for a Capri: Luff: 29' 4"; Leech 27' 9"; Foot 15' 2". I did not take a LP measurement. It is a hank on sail.

Got any use for these?

I dug out the original specs on the sails. According to these the max luff on the genny should be 31', the LP 15.154. The main should be 28.5' on the leech. So trying to measure them in the living room which isn't 31 feet long probably introduced some errors. I imagine there's been some shrinkage over the years as well.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/12/2006 : 13:59:15

Wow, those seem really small.... Is the Capri a fractional rig?

I won't be able to use them to sail with, but if you can't unload them, they might make nice bags for someone.

dw

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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 02/12/2006 : 15:21:32

Rechecked my math, adjusted genny measurements accordingly. I could blame it on my wife's writing, but we won't go there :)

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Response Posted - 02/12/2006 : 15:39:09

Rick, at Strictly Sail Chicago we met two women whose business is making clothes, bags, etc. out of old sails -- send them your castoffs & they'll make you jackets, pants, duffles, whatever you can dream up. Very cool idea.

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