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kevinmac
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Initially Posted - 02/22/2006 : 14:59:16

I am planning to trailer my C250 to either Anacortes or Everett Washington during the second week full week of July this summer. I have a friend in Iowa who will be speaking at the airshow in Arlington, Washington that week, and we would like to do some daysailing during the week of the airshow, and then perhaps take a short weekend trip afterwards. Everett is the closest physically, being about a 20 min drive from Arlington. Anacortes is about an hour away.

I want to stay on my boat during the week, and I would like to try to find a place where I can get a slip or sidetie, as I probably won't have a dinghy yet.

Can anyone suggest where the best place to go might be - and where it might be possible to reserve a spot?

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Kevin Mackenzie
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Grego5
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Response Posted - 02/22/2006 : 16:54:25

Kevin,

Here is the link to the Everett Marina:
http://www.portofeverett.com/GuestMoorage.shtml
Not a bad place to stay. Let me know if I can help you find another place to stay or give you ideas of where to go or what to do.

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dave andersen
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Response Posted - 02/22/2006 : 19:04:08

Kevin, Launch in Everett and then sail or motor up to Langley on the east side of Whidbey Island, about 5 to 7 miles. Langley has a fantastic little harbor where there is usually room and if not good anchorage. A five minute walk up to the town of Langley, one of the great chosen spots in the Islands. Stay on your boat -- there is a full bathroom on the shore. Then continue up Saratoga passage between wWidbey and Camano Island to Coupeville -- the town of sea captains and the oldest town in Washington. From there continue to La Conner which is on a slough that takes you through to the main San Juan sailing grounds ( you will avoid Deception Pass which can be tricky with its 10 knot tidal currents) If you get to Langley on Whidbey Island, I'll be there in my summer house and will have you to dinner and a little tour. My local number there is 360-221-6118.

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Doug
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Response Posted - 02/22/2006 : 21:20:47

The trip through the chanel to Laconner is great. Just keep in mind that unlike most of the Sound, the water may not be very deep in places. Same is tru for heading in to Anacortes. Use your charts.

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johnsonp
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Response Posted - 02/22/2006 : 21:39:01

Kevin
Some thoughts.
I have a C250 WK with the standard Trailrite trailer, that means I do not have that optional large fold down wheel that others on this site have shown installed on thier trailers.

I do not have a problem launching my boat at most ramps but I can not retrieve it with my Jeep Grand Cherokee. Unless some GOOD guy with a pickup truck helps me pull my boat out. That is to say he could put half truck bed under water so I could get the trailer deeper in the water to retrieve the boat.

So now I determine where I want to do the most sailing,it is faster to drive at 55mph than sail at 5mph, and pick a marina that has a hoist to put the boat in and out and also allows you to store your trailer and car.

Last year I launched at Oak Harbour,BC to go north to Princess Louisa inlet ,instead of launching in the USA port. Saved 6 days,3 each way.

So where do you want to sail?

paulj C250wk #719

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 02/22/2006 : 22:14:29

Do a search on 'tow rope' for method of launching/retrieval using a tow rope, works great, even our little chevy blazer could pull JD out of the water.

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kevinmac
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Response Posted - 02/23/2006 : 10:20:56

Dave, thanks very much for the invitation. We may well take you up on it!

Paul, do you have the extension on your trailer? You are worrying me, I have only launched my boat, not recovered it yet. Hmmm....

Brit, I think you need to add the third wheel to the trailer to do rope launches of a 250WK. If not, please educate me. The trailer jack does not look strong enough to actually roll the trailer on.

Everyone, another option I have heard for launching so far is to have it sling launched in Anacortes, and keep the boat in a slip there during the week. The launch is $45 each way, and they say they can do it with the mast up, so I can use the trailer to raise the mast. A slip for a week is $112 - more than I would like, but less than I used to pay for hotel rooms...

Still looking for options.

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Ericson33
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Response Posted - 02/23/2006 : 10:42:11

Kevin, Do you have a trailer extension for your boat? I am not sure what the 250 wing draws, but I launch our Capri 25 with a trailer extension and a Ford Explorer V6. I have never had any problems with the boat comming Out. The extension is adjustable from 10 to 17 ft. in lenth, There ia a two wheeled dolly that attaches to the trailer, and then to the extension Via stainless pins. This way you are never dragging a tyre sideways, it moves with the hitch. I would say that our ramp here is made for sailboats, but a larger marina should have you covered for depth because of the larger boats going in. I think there is a drawing of what I am talking about in the Capri 25 files.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/23/2006 : 11:13:47

I use a very heavy duty swing jack with two wheels on my trailer. While I have never used it to support the tongue on a ramp my boat did blow accross a parking lot and about 10 feet into a bank area before the nose wheel sunk and stopped the rig from launching itself in our small boat cove. When dragging the rig back out of the mud (using plywood under the jack hweel) it continued to hold up. I think I would trust it on a ramp. It is a Shelby, you can see it here.

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PZell
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Response Posted - 02/23/2006 : 15:10:47

It's been a while since I've been in Everett, but they used to have a sling launch there. No idea on the cost now-a-days. Check out the boats in the slough just outside of Marysville. Used to keep boats there. Think Archies son still runs the place. You could probably keep the trailer there. I used to live up in the hills above Arlington and worked at a radio station out in the flat by that slough until they closed it in '83.

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kevinmac
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Response Posted - 02/23/2006 : 18:58:30

Thanks for the advice about the Shelby jack Frank, I'll consider that. I think I will be trailering fairly often, so I am still inclined to do the 3rd wheel thing.

PZell, the cost of the sling launch in Everett is $170, so for that I think I will use the ramp if I put in in Everett. I know the dry storage place you are talking about, it is right on the way to Arlington, so I will look into that.

Capri25: Trailer extension? Had not heard of that. I'll have to look for one on the net, as another alternative. How do you transport the extension?

Thanks everyone.

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atgep
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Response Posted - 02/23/2006 : 21:10:20

The 3rd wheel is the way to go. It gives you an additional hub which just might come in handy at some point.

Tom Potter ruined his tounge jack on my wiley ramp in Jax.

I use a 30,000 lb 4 inch tow strap. It is 30 feet long. I double it up and get a 15 foot extention.

It also aids in dropping the tounge which helps level the trailer. This really helps if the ramp is steep.

Tom.

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atgep
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Response Posted - 02/23/2006 : 21:12:12

I forgot to add. I am moving to Oak Harbour Wa this spring. I will be eager to explore the SJ's as well.

Tom.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/23/2006 : 21:17:27

Wow! Trailer extensions are very common. So much so that there are a million variations. I will post a few in another thread so I don't load this thread up with photos.

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johnsonp
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Response Posted - 02/23/2006 : 23:10:09

link..........
http://apps.ecy.wa.gov/shorephotos/index.html

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welshoff
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Response Posted - 02/24/2006 : 09:21:50

Kevin,
Here is a link to boat ramps in WA State. Just click on the "boating facilities map" link for more detail (interactive map). You can find marinas and boat ramps and will give you phone numbers for both and despriptions of ramp conditions, ect.

http://www.iac.wa.gov/maps/default.asp

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PZell
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Response Posted - 02/26/2006 : 15:10:26

Gad. Think I paid a few bux for the sling launch last time I used it in Everett. That was probably 82. Go figure. Forgot about that dry storage area.
I was talking about the little homey marina on the slough just on the other side of the RR tracks on old 99. Have fun on your trip.

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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 02/26/2006 : 22:36:22

Kevin, I would think two or three times about ramp launching into salt water; Perhaps if your trailer is galvanized and/or you are not worried about brakes. I have sworn it off due to my painted EZLoader and the damage that resulted years ago.

You also may have misunderstood a tad. The sling in Anacortes that is "cheap"....30-45 ish R/T at Cap Sante Marina is NOT for a boat with the rig up. You would have to do that in the water, but I ALWAYS do my 25 that way....no biggie....

Maybe you have a lead on something else, however. A Travel Lift would launch/retrieve with the rig up, but they are usually much more money than the little sling at Cap Sante. They DO have a Travel Lift as well, but I have not priced it.

Talk to you soon when things slow down.....

Gary B.
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kevinmac
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Response Posted - 02/26/2006 : 23:04:13

Hi Gary,

The trailer is galvanized, and I plan to add a brake washout system before using it in salt water, if I decide to do that.

But I would rather do it another way if it is available. I talked to Cap Sante, they said $45 each way on the Travel Lift, and they could do it with the mast already up.

BUT, perhaps folks have scared me off about the difficulty of stepping the mast in the water. I just know that I would have to do it without a mast raising system, because that is on the trailer for the newer 250s. When we sailed this weekend, Ray said, as you have, that it is not hard, so maybe we can try it down here sometime later this spring. I will have the mini-shrouds from the trailer system to steady the mast going up, maybe we can just use the spare jib halyard to raise the mast in the water.

I also know that we did it in the water after A&D finished the bottom painting, and that took three guys and a crane...and three tries.

I dunno, I have so much to learn, and you all have a lot more experience than I.

I look forward to spending some time talking with you about the San Juans when your life has more room in it in a couple of months. Thanks for being willing to get together, there is no substitute for spending a few minutes with a man who has "been there".

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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 02/28/2006 : 01:39:29

I have only raised one 250 mast, however, when helping Steve Dube at the Nationals in '04.

Glad to help you and get together soon. My college's production opens on the 16th and only runs through the 19th, so there is light at the end of the tunnel.

Our spring break starts around the 27th or so of March. Hope to splash Encore! that week...unless I have the energy to go to Mississippi or N. O. to work on Katrina restoration. I would like to do that, but I am pretty worn out and may need a week off!!

Keep in touch....

Gary B.
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kevinmac
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Response Posted - 02/28/2006 : 09:24:43

If you need help getting it in the water, let me know.

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 02/28/2006 : 22:16:15

Most "sling" launching systems that use a single davit are limited to somewhere between 4000~5000 pounds; enough for a Catalina 22 or a 250 water ballast, but not a Catalina 25 and marginal for the 250 Wing. When I phoned Cap Sante last year to make inquiries before our club cruise, the employee who I talked to said that their sling could not handle a Catalina 25 and that I would have to use the travel lift. The sling wouldn't work for me anyway as my mast raising system requires the boat to be on the trailer and on flat level ground; I have never attempted to raise or lower my Tall Rig mast with the boat in the water, although I suppose it could be done in an emergency using the main sheets and the boom and whisker pole to jury-rig an "A"-frame. We ended up ramp-launching in Bellingham; the rest of the group was unwilling to part with the extra $90 for the Cap Sante travel lift, plus a parking fee (Bellingham Marina let us park free for up to three weeks in the long-term lot).

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 03/01/2006 : 05:17:28

Have to agree with the need for the 5th wheel. We bent the original tongue jack when the jack wheel caught a ding in the ramp (under water) as we were retrieving JD.
We purchased a 1500lb jack to replace it. It can swing back 90degrees but the setting pin/hole is sloppy so it rotates slightly under load which increases the risk of bending as it is then no longer vertical. We'll get the 5th wheel the moment we can find one!

Paul

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 03/01/2006 : 12:21:29

If you are going to trailer to either of those destinations I would skip Everett. It will take you an extra day to make it into the San Juans. I recomend you trailer to Anachortes. Once you leave there it's an easy shot west through Guemes chanel streight across to Thatcher Pass. This has to be one of the quickest and easiest routes into the San Juans and will put you at Specer Spit for the first night. Great crabing be sure to get a license $12 or 14 dollars.

My view of going from Everett is this. Yes Langley is nice BUT it's a long slog up the Saratoga Chanel with not much to look at. Oak Harbor. Blah . Long walk to town. Nice marina nothing to do . Dangerous harbor entrance due to submerged rock stay well of shore when turning east after leaving for LaConner. The Swinomish Chanel can be nerve racking unless you have done it once before. Shifting sand bars on the southern end. Large wakes from power boats crowding by. If the tide is running the curent can be 4 to 7 knts and can pull you off of the dock when your either comming in or leaving. North end is rough due ti power boats speeding past making large wakes. My recomendation if you dont have a lot of time is skip it.

Did anyone mention Bellingham. Wonderfull ramps, long term parking, guest docks, hotels, returaunts, marine stores. Its a little long to get out of the Bay about 1 hour to round the southern tip of Lumi Island, jog north then west and your at the best of the Juans. Sucia Island Echo Bay. Beautiful . Check Anachortes Cap Sante Boat Haven for another good departing point.

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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 03/01/2006 : 19:34:09

With all due respect to Larry Charlot....the Cap Sante sling is not a "single davit", and is posted good to 6,000 #. My '78 Catalina 25 SK has come in and out of there more times than I could count since 1983(but math was never my best subject). PLUS...I have seen numerous other 25s (including fellow Fleet 94 members) with Tall rigs, etc. Have the pictures to prove it. See the Fleet 94 website and click on the San Juan tour; you can see it yourself, if memory serves.

Somebody (perhaps a new hire at Cap Sante?) does not know what he/she is talking about.

Cap Sante is arguably, I suppose, the BEST choice for the San Juan area for the buck. I would not consider any place else....course I have only been going up there nearly every summer since 1978. Tried the ramps, other places, etc. Trust me....hard to beat Cap Sante for facility, price, parking, friendliness, cooperation, etc. And NO, I don't own stock....

Gary B.
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/01/2006 : 19:40:50

Gary, you recall our single davit crane, it is conservatively rated at 5 tons and we routinely use it for Catalina 30s and an Ericson 32.

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