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ed_spengeman
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Initially Posted - 03/01/2006 :  17:52:25  Show Profile
Have an 83 sk/tr. Windows appear to be leaking. Took the inside aluminum ring off one of them but the the rest of the unit is stuck. Communicated with one of the forum members in same straits but he hasn't completed the job yet. He suggests heat gun and guitar string. Is this what you guys recommend?
ed spengeman
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/01/2006 :  20:38:13  Show Profile
What do I recommend?...Hmmm?...I guess it depends on what was used to bed your frames.

On my boat, they were bedded with a gooey, gray, bubblegum type substance that gripped pretty good. I tried using a plastic putty knife to cut it, but that didn't work out so well. I eventually got them to come out using wood shims to gently pry the frame out as I worked my way around the perimeter of the frame.
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/01/2006 :  21:22:03  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
When it comes to the windows, Harvey and I said if we have to do them again, it'd be easier to buy a for sale sign.

Anyway, we sat on the deck with a beer, a pen knife, a scraper, some various solvents(beyond the beer), a screwdriver and a putty knive and kept at it until they came off. Initially 5200 was what was on there so it took a long while.
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 03/02/2006 :  09:24:53  Show Profile
Maybe, before going to all that trouble, you should try Capt. Tolley's Creeping Crack Cure. Just a thought...
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/02/2006 :  09:54:52  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Duane Wolff</i>
<br />When it comes to the windows, Harvey and I said if we have to do them again, it'd be easier to buy a for sale sign.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Hear! Hear!
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wmeinert@kconline.com
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Response Posted - 03/02/2006 :  15:47:57  Show Profile
Try using a peace of nylon line, the type that surveyors use to put from stake to stake. Take the line and slide it back and forth along the edge of the window trim to break the seal. I learned this trick when I watch some guy on one of those home repair shows cut a peace of PVC pipe. I figured if that worked to cut pvc, then it might work on our poorly designed windows, and it did.

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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 03/02/2006 :  16:48:11  Show Profile
3M General Purpose Adhesive Cleaner will remove the gray goopy stuff and pretty much any other adhesive, but you have to soak it in with a rag.
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/02/2006 :  18:29:14  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dlucier</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Duane Wolff</i>
<br />When it comes to the windows, Harvey and I said if we have to do them again, it'd be easier to buy a for sale sign.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Hear! Hear!
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Actually Don, I should be honest, I lied in the above post, we really used Beers, not beer.
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ed_spengeman
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Response Posted - 03/04/2006 :  10:25:32  Show Profile
Has anybody seen the article in the new "Good Old Boat"? They use 3/8" acrylic sheets and neoprene rubber sheets to replace the aluminum ringed windows. It looks like a poor mans $700 fix. Does anyone see a reason not to do this instead of using the Catalina Direct gasket kit?
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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 03/04/2006 :  11:02:47  Show Profile
Well, the cruising concepts kit was only $550. See my blogspot for details on the project.
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wmkoines
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Response Posted - 03/28/2006 :  17:15:16  Show Profile
Are you sure about $550? They gave me a price of $700+ $75 for shipping.
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Esteban
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Response Posted - 03/28/2006 :  19:51:23  Show Profile
What's the problem gang?

I'm in the midst of doing this with a bud. We removed all six windows - on two boats (81 and an 83) in one hour. Same gray stuff we are talking about. We used a thin scrapper to open up a little wedge and then a mini crowbar. Didn't mark the finerglass, not even a scratch - gently and slowly and they almost jumped off. Nice huh?

Esteban
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/28/2006 :  22:03:44  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
By Bud I hope you mean budweiser
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Esteban
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Response Posted - 03/29/2006 :  07:26:52  Show Profile
Well - not quite. Bud with a Y but there were Coronas involved. You know you're pushing spring when you're working outside drinking a cold beer and it's in the mid 40s.
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steephen
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Response Posted - 04/05/2006 :  10:56:41  Show Profile
I used a fine putty knife, and the tiny pry bar mentioned above. Cleaned the fiberglass with SoftScrub and then acetone. Bought the entire window gasket kit from CD and have done two windows so far (about four hours) but it has not rained yet....
Stephen Z on "Little Wing"
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