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Jim Mc
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Initially Posted - 03/01/2006 : 23:13:28

If you have been considering adding a teak and holly sole to your boat but don't want to mess with a carpentry project, look at page 59 in the 2006 Defender catalog. Lonseal (www.lonsealspecialty.com) makes industrial grade sheet vinyl products. They sent me two samples, one with a gloss finish and one with matte. They also have trim material for the edges and hatch covers. The matte looks like a good product and is a heavy duty 2 mm thick. You can also find this product at WWW.worldpanel.com. They also carry teak and holly in plywood and laminate.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 03/02/2006 : 06:00:20

It's a pretty interesting product, we picked up a sample at the miami show.
What method of keeping it in place would be appropriate? would hate to mess up the cabin sole if we found the vinyl was unsuitable.(or way to anti-aesthetic)

I can almost hear the teak huggers groan as I type this

Paul

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welshoff
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Response Posted - 03/02/2006 : 10:03:31

I saw this product in the Defender catalog as well. The catalog notes you need to use their glue to install. I would like to try it, but not willing to spread the glue all over the cabin floor if I don't like the material at a later date.

Anybody have any other thoughts on this?

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Jim Mc
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Response Posted - 03/02/2006 : 22:39:42

I have the same concern about using glue and then changing my mind. The trim they supply has tiny pre drilled holes. It is possible that would be all you need to hold it in place. I have also considered using a bead of glue just to hold the edges down in addition to the trim. Their expert on this product will be back in California on monday. He is name is Neil Rodden @ 1-800-832-7111 ext 24. As far as looks go I like the 12" X 12" sample they provided. The matte finish has a nice non skid texture and looks a lot more like wood than smooth laminate flooring.

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 03/03/2006 : 16:37:07

The darn rolls are only 60" long, the floors right at 96" long. I hate seams.

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Bubba
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Response Posted - 03/03/2006 : 19:45:10

Uh... Tom the rolls are 60 <u>feet </u>long!

At least that's what the worldpanel website says. I did a double-take when I saw that the rolls weighed 245 pounds.

I wonder if you could use some kind of rubber cement so it could be peeled up if you changed your mind later on.

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 03/03/2006 : 20:04:12

Yikes

it does say 60' that should be more than enough.

I made a paper pattern of my floor and then cut some carpet to fit. The fit is a very tight around the edges. There are so many angles in the cut its keeps the carpet from sliding around.

I bet if the "teak sheet vinyl" lays flat, and you get a tight fit around the edges it probably wont move.

I don't think I could glue the stuff down.

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Bubba
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Response Posted - 03/04/2006 : 19:12:12

What would you do for bilge access if it was glued down? I suppose you could cut along the edges of the access panel, but I wonder if the edges would peel up after a while.

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Response Posted - 03/04/2006 : 19:37:42

no bilge access from the cabin sole in 2005 c250WB!
Bilge access (for the bilge pump) is aft of the ladder under the aft berth.

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Bubba
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Response Posted - 03/05/2006 : 15:10:14

Oh yeah, I was thinking of the wing keel. The keel bolts start just aft of the compression post. There's a removable hatch in the cabin sole to access them. I have to take up the carpet to get at it.

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Jim Mc
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Response Posted - 03/18/2006 : 22:42:16

I talked with Neil Rodden the sales rep for this product. He advises that we use the glue down installation method due to liability issues. The company is concerned the flooring might slip if not glued. He says for a boat our size, one quart of #555A adhesive should do the job. It took him eight months to convince Catalina to use the product. It is now available on their new C309. For more information see the November 2004 issue of Mainsheet, page T21. Two Catalina 30 owners discuss the installation process.

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