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coldducks
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Initially Posted - 05/26/2006 : 05:41:42

after 6 years of no problems, all of a sudden it won't roll in or out. we have tried rewrapping the line to make sure that the line was not wrapped over itself, but no luck. any thoughts or ideas.

COLDDUCKS
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 05/26/2006 : 06:37:41

I guess I hear you saying that the furler won't turn... if so, it is likely drag at the nylon bearing block. It accumulates dirt and will eventually freeze, but can be cleaned very easily with a little alcohol and a paper towel.

For those who haven't upgraded to the ball bearing, a cleaning should be part of the yearly maintenance.

The sail can be left on the furler, simply release the tack, pull the drum locking pin and lift the luff to expose the nylon bearing.

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 05/26/2006 : 08:29:19

My jib halyard broke at the masthead so the weight of the sail was resting on the furler drum, thus the drum couldn't turn. The drum not turning is what first alerted me to the fact that the halyard had broken. Mine's a Hood, don't know if this applies to a CDI, but make sure your jib is raised all the way.

Steve

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Alan Therrien
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Response Posted - 06/01/2006 : 08:31:56

I experienced the same problem a couple years ago. It felt like the CDI furling gear was binding, but I couldn't find a cause. First place I checked was the top and bottom of the headstay to make sure a broken strand was not binding.

It turned out to be the nylon bearing in the base of the furler. It was scratched on the top - presumably from dirt infiltration. Just enough friction to cause trouble. I replaced it with the ball bearing version. I checked the internet for best price. I think it was about $100. The best boat unit I ever spent.

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coldducks
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Response Posted - 06/14/2006 : 22:24:16

thanks to an email that we received from this forum, we learned that the problem with our cdi furler was a manufactures defect in the curing process of the plastic that they used. without this email, we would not have been able to have cdi replace this part free of charge. thank you!

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 06/15/2006 : 15:11:56

You might want to think about upgrading to the bearing instead of the nylon. Makes it very easy to furl and unfurl. Maybe CDI will work out a deal with you on the replacement and give you a discount on the upgrade. Might be worth a phone call.

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Response Posted - 06/15/2006 : 15:16:41

I sail a 1999 250 WK. Four years ago I began having problems with my CDI too. What I found on inspection was that the drum was warped or deformed. This was causing binding on the rigging and bearing race. It looked like the drum had been exposed to excessive heat. The narrower neck portion was misshapen, bulging and no longer true. I called CDI. They acknowledged a materials/manufacturing problem with the drum on my rig. This was a defect that they were familiar with and that had been corrected in later manufactured drums. They sent a new drum without question. It is running just fine now.

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 06/15/2006 : 15:18:31

Its great that CDI stands behind their product like that.

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coldducks
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Response Posted - 06/16/2006 : 05:40:03

jim,
that is exactly what happened to ours. i couldnt believe how misshappened ours was. we have a 99wk also, hull #409. must have been that year for the defect. although we found tha cdi was not as forth comming with that info. maybe that is why they have since changed their warranty to be a limited six year warranty from the lifetime warranty that you and i got. it wasnt until we got an email from a fellow sailor on this forum that we became aware of the problem. we had been going round and round with cdi for over a week, until we read them the email and they admitted the problem and sent a new one. again, thanks to all that responded.

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reuben
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Response Posted - 06/16/2006 : 15:36:42

Is changing to the ball bearing unit a fairly simple job? Can it be done without disconnecting the forestay?

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 06/16/2006 : 16:10:08

Yes and Yes, Its simple and you would have to disconnect the forestay. But its all easy, I installed my CDI at the dock with the mast up. Just tied off the jib halyard to the mast and other end to the pulpit and used it as an temporary forestay while I installed the CDI.

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