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cat1951
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Initially Posted - 05/27/2006 :  09:37:01  Show Profile
OK...I know that the PO of my C-25 told me which are the best magazines to subscribe to, and I trust his judgement. However, I thought I would throw out the question to all here. I am moving from R/C flying and have 3 magazines that I subscribe to, but you probably know the general complaints.

Too much advertising and not enough substance. Poor reviews of equipment...(most are on the positive side) due to advertiser support of the mag. Not enough "how to" articles covering many different projects. And... Not covering the type of equipment that I use..always reviewing what I can not afford.

So what 3 magazines would you subscribe to if you had a C-25 (1985 standard rig, fin keel model.) Since I don't subscribe to any at the moment, the field is wide open. As my RC mag subscriptions expire, I will be adding new sailing subscriptions. I like looking at new boats as much as the next person, but I am realistic, I have to keep the 25 for a few years to make my investment worthwhile. Besides, as Sea Trac can attest to, the boat is in great shape.

Sea Trac, yep still here, left the gate on Thursday headed for India, but heavy winds and bad weather in Chicago delayed the flight indefinitely...am leaving today.

Thank you all for your input.

Mike
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N.O. Catalina 25 #4849
In my opinion 75% of the earth is water for a reason. That's why I sail.

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 05/27/2006 :  09:47:05  Show Profile
Good Old Boat

BoatWorks

Lats & Atts

My favorite weekly: Sailboat Trader (just to look)

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At Ease
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Response Posted - 05/27/2006 :  09:55:45  Show Profile
Boat Works...good articles on how to fix things and how to operate things that help fix things.

Sail...sit back and read how the 'other half' live, and where they go and what they sail.

Practical Sailor...subscribe every five years for one or two years. That way you get all the tests, without repeating any of them. It has gotten better now that it is glossy paper in color.

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 05/27/2006 :  13:04:04  Show Profile  Visit Leon Sisson's Homepage
<b>[url="http://www.mainsheet.net/"]Catalina Mainsheet[/url]</b> (of course!)

<b>[url="http://www.goodoldboat.com/"]Good Old Boat[/url]</b> - "The sailing magazine for the rest of us!"

<b>[url="http://www.sailmag.com/boatworks/"]BoatWorks[/url]</b> - "The must-have magazine for the hands-on sailor"

<b>[url="http://www.practical-sailor.com/"]Practical Sailor[/url]</b> - The Consumer Reports of sailing.

<b>[url="http://www.diy-boat.com/"]DIY boat owner[/url]</b> - "The Marine Maintenance Magazine"

OK, so that's more than 3. They all have Websites where you can take a closer look to see how well they fit you.

-- Leon Sisson


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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 05/27/2006 :  13:06:20  Show Profile
After subscribing to nearly all of them over the years, I now subscribe only to Good Old Boat. However, I do read the others at Barnes and Noble and buy one of them if there's a particularly germane article. As for the pricey Practical Sailor (yes, I know it's because they don't accept advertising, but it's still too dear for me given the few articles that pertain to sailors with boats like ours) -- Boat US or West Marine usually has a stock of recent issues. I check them every now and then and buy one if there's a helpful article, which is pretty seldom.

The money I save I can blow on the boat.

Brooke

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John V.
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Response Posted - 05/27/2006 :  18:36:56  Show Profile  Visit John V.'s Homepage
I read Good Old Boat from cover to cover and then again. Karen Larson and Jerry Powles have gathered the very best Sailing Writers and given them a forum for boat owners. I still read Sail and Cruising World but only because I can renew through my school and a little money goes back to the kids.

last year Karen contacted me about moving Mystic to the North Channel. I was reccomended to them by another sailor with whom I had Shared an anchorage in Lake Superior. My long experience living on the North Channel would be an asset to them as they readied for a two year stay in my home waters.
Having had dinner aboard Mystic and had Karen's outstanding corn chowder and beer bread, I found that the warm personal tone of Good Old Boat is a direct reflection of it's editors.

Good luck selecting a publication but as you can see we are mostly in agreement that Good OLd Boat is the number one choice.


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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 05/27/2006 :  20:58:05  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Sailing World gives me what I look for in a magazine, hardware and how to use it.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 05/28/2006 :  09:06:44  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
Sailing
Good Old Boat (or perhaps Wooden Boat if having some wooden sailboat pipedreams)
Practical Sailor

Sailing is a large format magazine with great sailboat photoraphy snapshots. Not to be confused with Sail or Sailing World. Has so-so equipment reviews but shines in it's usual coverage of smaller boats. Recent articles have been on 20-25 foot sailboat reviews; large trailor sailors in the 25 ft range and a recent 5 page article on the Catalina 25 cruising about/gunkholing. This magazine usually has one article on an old sailboat. The cost of it is probably worth the great snapshots they have each month.

Good Old Boat - Good magazine for repairs. Also like Wooden Boat but since I do not have a wooden boat, this magazine is less applicable to my present situation. Though....I have been considering a future endeavor of building a small wooden sailboat (8 ft - 10 ft) from a kit either from Shell Boats or Chesapeake Light Craft. That's 1 of 1000 things on my backburner list. I am considering buying this magazine - Good Old Boat. I have bought some single monthly issues. The magazine is a bit pricy but probably has a low distribution/specific interest that effects that cost.

Practical Sailor - Usually good equipment reviews. But very expensive since no advertising in the magazine to keep it unbiased. The result is that when one then scrutinizes the reviews, you wonder if the quality of the review and benefit derived each month is worth the excessive magazine cost. I presently have a 6 month subscription and wavering over resubscribing. If this one was in the local library, then that would be the way to go. I like the comment from "At Ease", above:

"subscribe every five years for one or two years. That way you get all the tests, without repeating any of them. It has gotten better now that it is glossy paper in color."

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/28/2006 :  15:47:01  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
There are a number of them out there on our links page at some pretty good rates and the association gets a percentage of the sale...check them out.

If there is any magazine you do not see, shoot me an email and I will create an affilitate link to email to you for you to use. If it is sailing related I'll get it posted in the links section
dw

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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 05/28/2006 :  19:06:43  Show Profile  Visit AADIVER's Homepage
"Sailing is a large format magazine with great sailboat photoraphy snapshots. Not to be confused with Sail or Sailing World."

Larry, what's the URL/subscription site for SAILING? I Googled the title but it didn't come up.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/28/2006 :  19:33:52  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Larry????

hey frank, just click on the picture of the magazine on our links page

http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/links.asp#magazines

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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 05/28/2006 :  21:25:58  Show Profile  Visit AADIVER's Homepage
There is no picture of a publication with the title SAILING, only SAIL, and SAILING WORLD.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 05/28/2006 :  22:35:01  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
Frank,

Here's the URL for Sailing:

www.sailingmagazine.net

As the opening screen says: "It's the big one !"

The May issue is the one with the Catalina 25 photos/article.

I had gone to the DC Boat Show back in...think it was February or March. There was a guy selling mostly motorboat magazines. He had a few sailboat magazines and since I was not really into racing, he recommended "Sailing" because it had nice large photos, always has a large centerfold (don't get excited now...it's almost always of a boat), has some maintenance/equipment review but not that extensive, usually has one article on an older sailboat and covers some small as well as large sailboats, whereas, these days some of the magazines seem to cover mostly large sailboats.

Been out Most of today - My wife, daughter and I did a triathlon: Georgetown shopping, Hanes Point Biking and ended up with Potomac River Sailing.

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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 05/28/2006 :  23:39:28  Show Profile  Visit AADIVER's Homepage
Duane, this magazine is NOT pictured on the links site:


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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 05/29/2006 :  09:54:43  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
Duane,

Hey ! What's the story ! Missed a magazine ? LOL
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You guys have your hands full managing this website - You are doing a great job !
I have recently been using the links page to get to some of the commercial sites for ordering some stuff. Only problem is that for one or two things I ordered...I forgot to go to the links page first. Still...the links page is very good....and I was wondering about something.....If someone was to go to your links page and if you had say Yahoo or another search engine on there, would the association still derive a benefit if we bought something from a mfr not sirectly on your links page but accessed thru say Yahoo if it was on your links page ?

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/29/2006 :  19:29:47  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by FARMHAND</i>
<br />Duane, this magazine is NOT pictured on the links site:


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yeah frank, I caught it the first time you typed it.

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 05/31/2006 :  17:13:49  Show Profile
Good Old Boat--of course

Lattitudes and Attitudes--perfect for dirtbags like me who dream of chucking it all and heading out, I also enjoy it's irreverence

I also get Boatworks and DIY

I quit taking Practical sailor. Too many manufacturers question their methodology. When the folks at Harken told them that some of their tests were flawed I made up my mind not to renew. But if you do insist on getting this mag, let your subscription expire, and within a few weeks they will offer it to you again at half price, at least they did for me once. even at half price it's expensive

Mainsheet--everybody who is anybody gets this magazine

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/31/2006 :  19:12:45  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by OLarryR</i>
<br />Duane,

Hey ! What's the story ! Missed a magazine ? LOL
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You guys have your hands full managing this website - You are doing a great job !
I have recently been using the links page to get to some of the commercial sites for ordering some stuff. Only problem is that for one or two things I ordered...I forgot to go to the links page first. Still...the links page is very good....and I was wondering about something.....If someone was to go to your links page and if you had say Yahoo or another search engine on there, would the association still derive a benefit if we bought something from a mfr not sirectly on your links page but accessed thru say Yahoo if it was on your links page ?
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Yes Larry, anybody who links from that page regardless of affiliation benefits the association

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 05/31/2006 :  21:24:16  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Gloss</i>
<br />Good Old Boat--of course

Lattitudes and Attitudes--perfect for dirtbags like me who dream of chucking it all and heading out, I also enjoy it's irreverence

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As the only other sailor in this thread who mentioned Lats & Atts as a favorite, I would like to respectfully disagree with your contention that dreaming of chucking it all makes one a dirtbag. Actually chucking it all by abandoning one's wife, kids and financial obligations would certainly qualify one as a dirtbag, but merely dreaming of it just means you're imaginative and have hopes for the future. I like the mag 'cuz of the irreverence and the fact that it's written primarily by folks who are out there cruising themselves....some of whom are no doubt dirtbags.

Steve

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PamC
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Response Posted - 06/01/2006 :  12:56:22  Show Profile
I too am a subscriber to Latts & Atts. It has some fun articles but also a lot of useful stuff if you're interested in cruising. And I don't <i>think</i> I'm a dirt bag, but ya never know what people are thinking. I am a dreamer though. As my father in law once told me, "If you don't have dreams, you'll never do anything." And he was right.

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 06/01/2006 :  17:09:26  Show Profile
Only people with self confidence will use self depreciating humor. Hence calling myself a dirtbag. Oh gosh, now I'm going to be accused of saying that others are not self confident

I'm sorry if any other fans of Lattitudes and Attitudes were offended by my calling myself a dirtbag. Please re-read my statement, I only called myself a dirtbag, not others. I admire folks who have their financial house in order and cast off.

I'm probably the only dirtbag you know who does anesthesia for a living. Maybe I should quit, collect welfare, and change political affiliations. But being overly responsible has always been my curse. Well, maybe not that time I quit my job and took a year off and became a ski instructor.

Yes, realities start with dreams. so subscribe to Latts and Atts today!



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dlucier
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Response Posted - 06/01/2006 :  18:32:15  Show Profile
A powerboater friend on my dock had his sign maker buddy whip up some graphics for his 24' Bayliner. He had a boat name put on, "Kool Runnings", then had his wife's name, Fran, put under the passenger's side window. Under his driver's seat window is just the word...<i>DIRTBAG</i>!

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