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Tom Potter
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Initially Posted - 07/04/2006 :  20:30:12  Show Profile
I was watching storm stories tonight and watched a sailboat that was demasted. It started me thinking about all the rigging that would be hanging under the boat that could hang up on something and cause more damage. The thought occurred to me that while I carry plenty of tools for repairs, I don't have anything on board that could quickly cut through my shrouds. I believe I'm going to look for a good set of cable cutters to stow on board. You guys think I may be over reacting?
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 07/04/2006 :  23:28:40  Show Profile
Hacksaw and a couple blades... so you can cut the mast extrusion and saw through turnbuckles if needed. (open-body turnbuckles are bronze).

Cable cutters may be overkill on a boat our size... unless you're going offshore.
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ilnadi
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Response Posted - 07/04/2006 :  23:48:52  Show Profile
I remember reading a suggestion that the cotter pins holding the toggles to the chainplates be held in place with brass pins (I guess instead of rings) so the cotter pins can be punched out with a hammer. This was for quick de-rigging in case of de-masting or other event.
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atgep
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Response Posted - 07/05/2006 :  01:54:38  Show Profile
I carry a 24" set from Harbour freight. I hope to never use them for the intended purpose. I did use them to cut my fancy outboard cable lock. It was 1/2" steel cable and snip-snip, it was cut. After that display of brawn, I have not bothered with another lock.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 07/05/2006 :  06:57:35  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
While I cannot find the reference, Key West Race week and ISAF safety regulations for off shore races required cable cutters to be on board a few years back. I've searched everything but can't actually find it in print...

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 07/05/2006 :  07:40:56  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
I couldn't locate the requirement. Maybe the skipper of the boat I was on was extra cautious. I did find the list of requirements though. It isn't a bad starter list for guys heading offshore.

http://www.premiere-racing.com/keywest/2003%20KW/kw_2003_Special_Regs.htm
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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 07/05/2006 :  20:38:59  Show Profile
Duane
Found this in your link.

"4.10 Tools and spare parts, including adequate means to disconnect or sever the standing rigging from the hull in the case of need."
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Ericson33
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Response Posted - 07/05/2006 :  23:53:06  Show Profile  Visit Ericson33's Homepage
a nice sized Visegrips seemed to cut right thru the wire rigging on our boat. It took about 30 seconds per wire. If needed I would just get a pair of cutters, In a life matter there is just no extra time.
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 07/06/2006 :  05:23:28  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Tom, I carry a rather small set of cutters from Harbor Freight when cruising and don't think your over reacting.
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 07/06/2006 :  06:45:40  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
I knew it was there somewhere. I was searching for cutters -
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kevinmac
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Response Posted - 07/06/2006 :  12:45:52  Show Profile
I don't think you are overreacting. I have taken to carrying a rigging knife in my pocket whereever I go, sailing or not, because I never want to forget it, and not have it when I need it. It is a waste until the moment you need it, and then you REALLY need it. Like the knife. Friend at the helm, fouled the rudder in a lobster pot during a race. Pulling the knife from my pocket and cutting us free, priceless.

Mixed subjects, I know, but the are same to me. My 1 cents worth.
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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 07/07/2006 :  16:15:27  Show Profile
Cable cutters at WM cost $110. Ace Hardware: $15.84. I put off buying some for altogether too many years. When you need to cut something, NEED, a hacksaw ain't gonna (excuse me) hack it. Ace is the place...
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atgep
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Response Posted - 07/07/2006 :  20:57:17  Show Profile
Another handy "tool" is a machete. I know it sounds weird, but there is no better tool for getting a nasty crab pot off the prop. I am still indebted to Ben for handing me his over the side on a dark stormy night.
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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 07/07/2006 :  21:53:40  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by atgep</i>
<br />Another handy "tool" is a machete. I know it sounds weird, but there is no better tool for getting a nasty crab pot off the prop. I am still indebted to Ben for handing me his over the side on a dark stormy night.
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Tom,
Now that you have become a "Crabber" are you having guilty feelings for cutting that rope on the crab pot?
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atgep
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Response Posted - 07/07/2006 :  23:46:02  Show Profile
Actually, The event I write about was on the way to the Mug Race. I caught a very large commercial crab pot. It was too heavy to bring up, and I was unable to raise the engine. Guilty.....No way. I was very happy to see that rope sink into the abyss. Ben keeps it in his coaming pocket. I am still looking for a Stainless one like he has.

Tom.
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