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britinusa
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Initially Posted - 07/05/2006 : 21:35:02

Ok, it's done!
Here's the pics (says a million words)
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<li>I am particularly pleased with how my pump holder platform worked out. It was a significant issue, there is barely room for the pump in the bilge and the pipes have to be uphill all the way to the A/C Unit.

This platform allows me to get the pump out on it's base and change it out without having to break the platform from the hull.

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Remaining jobs to finish the project are:
Trim the companionway hatch supports so that the smoked plastic hatch can be stored between the original hatch board and the bathroom bulkhead.

Clear up the cabin and cockpit as I made a heck of a mess putting all this together.

Paul

Joint Decision. (Sold)
PO C250WB 2005 Sail # 841.

Moved up to C34 Eximius

Updated August 2015

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Turk
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Response Posted - 07/05/2006 : 21:44:07

Wheeewww . . . makes me warm just thinking about the amount of work that went into this. Nice job!

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atgep
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Response Posted - 07/05/2006 : 22:42:19

You are an inspiration to all who live in the heat. Nice work.

Tom.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 07/06/2006 : 05:59:09

Turk, it would have been a lot easier(cooler) if the cabin was airconditioned before I started

Of course, we havn't launched the boat yet, that's going to be fun.
We have tested the system by hooking up a fresh water hose to the strainer inlet. Works a charm.

One thing I forgot to include is the Condensate discharge. I'l post pics when that is done. Right now it will just drain into a tupperware dish.

Paul.
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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 07/06/2006 : 15:54:33

Wow! that's some "cool" work there Paul. You gotta keep us informed on how its works for you. Man... I'm jealous, I'll be thinking of your A/C as I stare at my little fans and wipe the sweat from my forehead.

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atgep
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Response Posted - 07/06/2006 : 19:35:44

Tom, I am sure you are salivating. I don't think it will be too long before the Admiral orders the instalation of one.

Tom.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 07/06/2006 : 20:10:13

<center>There is a lower cost version....

(Click on pic to visit the site)

[url="http://www.propellerheadhats.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=8"]

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Paul.

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 07/06/2006 : 20:17:51

I was thinking more in the line of one of [url="http://www.sharperimage.com/us/en/catalog/product/sku__OC900"]these.[/url]

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 07/06/2006 : 20:20:44

ha! that even has an operators manual!

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 07/06/2006 : 20:26:16

Check this out! [url="http://www.rewci.com/mimi12igcomi.html"]Cooler Fan[/url]

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Turk
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Response Posted - 07/08/2006 : 14:48:33

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by tompotter
 Check this out! [url="http://www.rewci.com/mimi12igcomi.html"]Cooler Fan[/url]

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Hmmmmm . . mister fan. Now let's see, we cool down the cabin, and then we grow mold!

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 07/08/2006 : 17:15:37

Turk

We did a lot of research before plumting for the onboard A/C, including reading up on the mister fans, the swamp coolers and dehumidifiers.

So we blew the mister fan off really quick, it's not just the heat that gets you, it's the humidity!

I have just completed a system test of the new A/C and must say I'm delighted so far.
With the air outlet pointing towards the top of the bathroom door (ie port & fwd) a telltale on the top of the door flew fwd. I moved the telltale to the port side of the cross beam (where the lights are in the cabin top.) It flew fwd there too. Finally, I moved it to the stbd side of the cross beam, and it flew astern! Perfect!

The Subaru Robin (1700watt) generator coughs out if the A/C is started with the genny set to energymiser, but set to normal it starts fine, then can switch it down to energymiser again and it runs great, I thought the tank was almost empty but it ran for 90mins.

We're going on a 9 day trip end of July, that will be a test!

Before then I'm going to install a real condensate drain. It will be a tube ran from the pan down along the water supply line into the bilge then fwd beneath the cabin deck and above the WB tank. (there's a line of foam between the two surfaces that I'll have to drill (poke a hole) through.) Then the tube will go up the outside of the keel line tube to a height just below the pan base, then I'll cut into the keel line tube and seal the drain in place so that the water drains into that tube. I'll put a check valve in the condensate pan drain tube so that water does not head back to the pan if the water rises in the keel line tube.

Paul

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Russ.Johnson
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Response Posted - 07/09/2006 : 00:25:44

Paul,
Great project.
I've never drilled through the hull.
I was wondering how thick is the hull?
From the pictures, the bottom looks much thicker than the side.
Also, the bottom looks like it's wood and fiberglass?
Thanks, Russ (#793)

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 07/09/2006 : 07:37:03

Paul... your dedication to keeping the family comfortable is commendable but I hope the thread clears through quickly before my wife sees it

Seriously, a great job on the installation and documentation, which was very interesting to follow.

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 07/09/2006 : 10:00:33

Paul, be careful of the check valve you purchase. Most have some type of spring mechanism that holes it closed to prevent back movement of the liquid and requires pressure to open for liquid movement out. The condensate drain pan does not produce pressure so it will not open. You may be able to find one that is open and requires pressure to close, but I don't know how much pressure would be pushing back from your keel tube. I am sure you can find one that meets your needs, but it may require some research.
Your installation work was excellant and well thoughtout. I know it will make a big difference in the Florida climate, ours sure does.

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atgep
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Response Posted - 07/09/2006 : 10:13:44

Long condensate lines are not a great idea. They tend to get clogged with algae. A simple solution might be a small auto bilge pump in a 2 gallon bucket (like the sams club dishwasher detergent). This would be simple and seviceable if there were problems.

Tom.

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Response Posted - 07/09/2006 : 10:14:36

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 07/09/2006 : 11:37:52

Tom, that sounds like an idea! I had thought of just having a big tupperware dish under the pan, but didn't like the idea of having to cope with lifting it and dumping down the galley sink, recipie for water everywhere.
I could put the 'tank' in the bilge, and put in a bilge pump, then it would be available for actually pumping the bilge if ever needed. I like it.
Paul

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larry drake
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Response Posted - 03/19/2008 : 10:13:39

I'm interested in installing a onboard ac cruiseair unit in my 250. Was wondering if you could email me your installation pictures or repost them. I'm trying to deside on options for the pump and ac unit location and was hopping that your pictures would give me a few ideals.
thanks
Larry DRake
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Steve Blackburn
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Response Posted - 03/19/2008 : 22:32:55

I cant see the pictures. Wonder why. Neither from home or my work computer. Anyone else?

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Response Posted - 03/19/2008 : 22:37:48

They're gone for me, too.

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Response Posted - 03/19/2008 : 22:38:08

Me neither, too. I thought it was the firewall at work but, can't see 'em here either.

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larry drake
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Response Posted - 03/19/2008 : 23:05:57

that's why I replied this morning was because I couldn't see them.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 03/20/2008 : 05:37:24

Yeah...I feel left out too !

I could not view them at work or at home. What a bummer !

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 03/20/2008 : 09:34:40

We want the pictures! We want the pictures!

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Response Posted - 03/20/2008 : 14:31:27

What is this png extension?

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