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ilnadi
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Initially Posted - 07/19/2006 :  15:15:36  Show Profile
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/19/cruise.ship.ap/index.html
Nadi ex-C25
http://www.sailblogs.com/member/enka
http://building-spindrift11s.blogspot.com/
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Gloss
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Response Posted - 07/19/2006 :  19:31:44  Show Profile
there were also several traffic accidents and fist fights which broke out among all of the lawyers rushing to the scene
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Response Posted - 07/19/2006 :  20:13:33  Show Profile
From an AP update: "A similar incident occurred in February on a ship also operated by Princess. The 2,600-passenger Grand Princess left the Port of Galveston but soon turned around after a passenger suffered a heart attack. The ship tipped sharply on its side, injuring 27 passengers and 10 crew members. The incident was blamed on human error, Benson said."

The Crown Princess rolled 15 degrees and took "30 to 40" seconds to return upright according to passengers.

I wonder if cruise ship captains are ex-sailboat racers.

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takokichi
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Response Posted - 07/19/2006 :  20:26:26  Show Profile
What kind of boat can't sustain a 15 degree list? This things are really not seaworthy... You can't build something six times as tall as it is deep and expect it to behave properly.
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britinusa
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Response Posted - 07/20/2006 :  05:57:31  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">What kind of boat can't sustain a 15 degree list? This things are really not seaworthy... You can't build something six times as tall as it is deep and expect it to behave properly.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Agreed, they should have outriggers!

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 07/20/2006 :  06:42:42  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Which would allow a 9 hole on the tramps between the akas out to the amas.
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takokichi
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Response Posted - 07/20/2006 :  11:14:41  Show Profile
See. That's the beauty of collaborative thinking.
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ilnadi
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Response Posted - 07/20/2006 :  11:20:57  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by takokichi</i>
<br />What kind of boat can't sustain a 15 degree list? This things are really not seaworthy... You can't build something six times as tall as it is deep and expect it to behave properly.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Well, technically they did sustain a 15deg list (the ship righted itself). It just happens that everything and everybody fell over (including the water out of the pool).
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TRogers
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Response Posted - 07/20/2006 :  18:41:09  Show Profile
Makes you wonder how they handle in heavy seas? I would think if they hit really bad weather the might get as much as 15 degrees. You would think that they would have things bolted down a little better.
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Response Posted - 07/20/2006 :  21:53:48  Show Profile  Visit Douglas's Homepage
In reply to Takokichi's reply: Sure you can they call them McGregors
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