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JesseSmith
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Initially Posted - 06/11/2002 : 16:58:34

My magma grill constantly goes out while cooking. I assume the wind causes it. I have tried wrapping aluminum foil around the gap at the bottom with some success. After reading about all the cooking that this group does, I thought I must be doing something wrong. I do know that once that thing gets hot, it is a royal pain to relight without burning myself or dumping the food overboard.
Any ideas on how to keep lit? Im anxious to try some of those recipes.
Thanks as always group,
Jesse in MS

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OJ
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Response Posted - 06/11/2002 : 17:15:21

The answer to this should go into the proposed Catalina Cook Book <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> .

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John Mason
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Response Posted - 06/11/2002 : 17:37:08

I don't know how to keep it from going out, but for relighting I bought myself a piezoelectric camp stove igniter. It's long enough to get the tip right next to the burner element through the grill without burning your fingers. It's piezoelectric so it doesn't require flints, batteries or butane fuel. I found it at J. G. Whyte's at this URL (second one down, part #C0725). Works great so far.

http://www.jgwhyte.com/lighters.htm

John Mason - Ali Paroosa
1982 - FK/SR #3290

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coldducks
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Response Posted - 06/11/2002 : 22:39:25

that is a royal pain in the ass. it does go out in strong winds. i also tried the foil. it works sometimes, and sometimes it doesnt. (so, at that poit, we cook inside!)

COLDDUCKS
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MattL
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Response Posted - 06/12/2002 : 02:20:26

Watch out for those lighters too. I remember reading in a thread a while ago about one that caused a fire in the cabin when left unatended

Matt Loeffler
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OJ
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Response Posted - 06/13/2002 : 11:03:33

Borrowing from Darwin's theory of evolution, about 1.7 million years ago all the Magma grills only had propane burners. The burners kept going out because of the wind. For survival, grills began mutating to charcoal which burn hotter under breezy conditions. Of course, as it takes longer to heat-up a charcoal grill, one needs to arrive at raft-ups first, which requires faster bottom paint which is why God invented VC17m. Now raft-ups has a different origin; as food production became more efficient, civilization started having more free time which resulted in boats mutating from work to pleasure craft. In my opinion, however, I think boats that are in the center of raft-ups will quite literally die-off as they can't eat becuase all they do is pass food back and forth.
Of course, I could have just said that I have nothing but glowing things to say about my charcoal grill.

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cathluk
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Response Posted - 06/13/2002 : 11:10:04

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I have nothing but glowing things to say about my charcoal grill.
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Now I'm a charcoal fanatic - I don't even own a gas grill at home and wouldn't use one if you gave it to me. But...on a boat it seems charcoal storage would be messy and what do you do with the charcoal when you're done? (please don't say you throw it into the bay/lake/river - how environmentally unfriendly!)

We think we just found the perfect inexpensive grill solution. We got a new coleman "party" portable propane grill (round & compact w/ a storage bag). We plan to take a board & add mounts to fit on our stern seat rails & "fiddles" for the legs of the grill to keep it from sliding. Ta-da a $40 onboard propane grill!

Cathy
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OJ
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Response Posted - 06/13/2002 : 11:18:03

Okay, call me a purist, but does charcoal contain any man made components?
Yes Cathy, but getting back (way back) to the original issue, does your "party" grill stay lit in windy conditions? Hmmmm <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> ?

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cathluk
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Response Posted - 06/13/2002 : 13:36:30

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
...does your "party" grill stay lit in windy conditions? Hmmmm <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> ?

Edited by - OJ on 06/13/2002 11:55:29
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I'll let you know. Actually, being a propane newbie I didn't even know that was a problem. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Cathy
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John Mason
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Response Posted - 06/13/2002 : 13:45:09

MattL,
The lighter I refered to doesn't have fuel, batteries or flint. It creates a very small electric spark by clicking the button (the only moving part). Much safer than a disposable butane stove lighter, especially when stored aboard.

John Mason - Ali Paroosa
1982 - FK/SR #3290

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RichardG
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Response Posted - 06/13/2002 : 14:27:07

Try a Force 10 model.

RichardG 81 C25 SR/FK "Sanity"

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jellyfish
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Response Posted - 06/13/2002 : 15:43:03

I never have a problem with mine. If it is not too windy to light in the first place it does not go out. Make sure when you turn it on that you push down while you turn, this increases the gas alot. also, and I say this tongue in cheek because you are a sailor, when opening the top do so that it blocks the wind. as far gas vs charcoal, I have both at home, rule of thumb: if it takes longer than 1hr to cook, go charcoal! less than 1hr fire up the gas! happy cooking!

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 06/13/2002 : 17:16:15

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
Okay, call me a purist, but does charcoal contain any man made components?
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Most "brickettes" are made from the sludge from the distillation of crude oil--basically, they're cooked asphalt (without the stones). Some have a little sawdust in the mix, and then are soaked in kerosene for self-starting, but that'll burn off. They'll just add a little sulfer and a few other noxious elements to the lake--not to mention scum from the ash that floats for a while...

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette "Passage" in SW CT

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Ray Seitz
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Response Posted - 06/13/2002 : 23:11:16

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Most "brickettes" are made from the sludge from the distillation of crude oil--basically, they're cooked asphalt (without the stones). Some have a little sawdust in the mix, and then are soaked in kerosene for self-starting, but that'll burn off<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote> Wow are you sure about that? Wouldn't sludge from crude oil contain lead and other heavy metals? I guess if what your saying is true the "brickettes" are not charcoal at all.

Ray Seitz C 250WB #628

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MattL
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Response Posted - 06/14/2002 : 02:49:53

Speaking of what goes into a briquette, have you ever been to a hot dog factory? OH god, am I going to become a vegetarian. Then I'll have to give up my PETA badge, People Eating Tasty Animals<img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>

Matt Loeffler
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cathluk
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Response Posted - 06/14/2002 : 09:25:53

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
Then I'll have to give up my PETA badge, People Eating Tasty Animals<img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>

Matt Loeffler
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Here at work some of us figured we'd counter the more outlandish PETA campaigns (Tofurkey as a business holiday gift and McMurder Meals just to name a couple) that we created PETV (People for the Ethical Treatment of Vegetables). Our moto is "Save a Plant - Eat a Cow". <img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>

(please don't anyone take offense - its a joke!)

Cathy
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tinob
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Response Posted - 06/14/2002 : 09:48:51

REALLY Kathleen I hear screams whenever I eat salad--(don't mention cutting grass or picking fruit)never heard a steer complain<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Val on "CALISTA" #3936

Val Bisagni

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MattL
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Response Posted - 06/14/2002 : 17:29:22

The great Emo Philips once said, "I'm not a vegitarian because I love animals, I'm a vegitarian because I hate plants."
OH, you know sushi is great if you put it on the barbeque when you take it home.

In regards to the lighter I get a catalogue called American Science and Surplus web site <http://www.sciplus.com> great stuff. In the latest edition they have a pistol grip sparker, no butane, flint or any of that stuff. $1.75 each. And for all you other cathloic school kids they have "NunZilla" for sale.

Matt Loeffler
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Douglas
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Response Posted - 06/14/2002 : 19:25:45

I just dont get it. Perhaps some vital information is missing. Here is my thought on wind blowing out your BBQ. Why the heck are you sitting on the hook or moored if there is enough wind to sail.

Doug&Ruth
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