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Lightnup
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Initially Posted - 08/27/2006 : 17:17:04

Mainsail stowed, headsail stowed, bimini stowed, life sling stowed, Magma grill stowed, double dock lines secured, bilge pump connected and operating. Only thing left to do is lower the outboard into the water when the storm gets nearer.

Guess Lorica is going to look like this until at least October. Not worth re-rigging only to have another storm come this way.

To anyone in the path, best wishes.

Steve

Steve Madden
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djn
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Response Posted - 08/27/2006 : 18:53:17

Hi Steve, why will you drop the motor? Are you just trying to get the moment arm stress lower? Or are you preping for a quick get a way? Cheers.

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Response Posted - 08/27/2006 : 20:39:14

Steve, do you have to worry about having the marina pulling the boat out (that new florida law thing)?
We have JD alongside the house. Our plan is to fill the water ballast, and take the mast off the top and store it under the trailer. It all depends on the next couple of days forcasts. It takes about an hour to put our shutters up, and another to pull the bits and bobs from the yard to the garage. I'll also be opening the gates and lashing them open (after wilma last year, I made the gates so that they would open either inwards so they are against the fence or can open 180d. We lost our fence, all 300+ feet of it last year, this year it should stand up much better. Lots of concreate around the fence posts, 12' rails on 4' spaced posts. I'll still keep my fingers crossed.

besides, we're planning on spending Labor day weekend at Key Largo!

Paul.

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Response Posted - 08/28/2006 : 07:03:21

[quote]Originally posted by britinusa
 Steve, do you have to worry about having the marina pulling the boat out (that new florida law thing)?
Our marina doesn't have a lift and there's no trailer so the best our harbormaster could do would be to tow her out in the river and drop the anchor.

Ernesto turned even more to the east overnight - which is not good for you east-coasters - so it looks like we'll miss the brunt of it and be on the "good" side when it passes.

Steve

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Don B
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Response Posted - 08/28/2006 : 07:07:32

I should get the word later today...the marina will either pull your boat or you have to leave the marina. There are a couple of somewhat protected areas (Desoto or Emerson Point) that I may move to or...maybe it is time for that bottom job

Good luck to all and stay safe.

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Response Posted - 08/28/2006 : 10:16:15

I don't mean to be insensitive but as an observer of this annual ritual... How could someone have shutters for their windows and no trailer for their boat? I sure hope southeast coast boat insurance is high enough that the rest of us are not subsidising the losses. I would think that a trailerable boat lost in a storm for lack of a trailer would be negligence. It seems like a trailer should not be an option; it should be a requirement for coverage.
Or am I just an idiot?

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Response Posted - 08/28/2006 : 12:29:16

Steve: Looks like you dodged this one... but I'm curious about why you left the boom on. In the face of a hurricane, I'd stow it below.

Frank: I'm not sure that a boat is better off on a trailer than in the water in 150mph winds--all approaches are problematic, and a lot depends on what else is in the vicinity. A slip might be the worst option--a few anchors in a protected "hole" might be the best. Actually, the very best is a hole in the ground--used for typhoons in the S. Pacific. So to answer your question.......

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Jonathan Cuff
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Response Posted - 08/28/2006 : 13:54:19

It's very hard to know what's best in a strong hurricane. These are the results of Ivan (Cat 5). The Catalina 25 is mine. We tied it up both sides of the canal and took everything down (bimini & sails) but it still got lifted up and deposited in between the dock pilings and the dock wall. The boat was repaired at minimal cost- scratched gel coat. The other picture is a Catalina 250 which was tied to its trailer in our yard. As you can see it didn't fare so well. The owner should have taken the mast down, but as you can see from other boats in view it might not have helped. That boat has also been fully repaired but at much greater cost.

Cheers Jonathan

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 08/28/2006 : 22:39:08

Originally written by Frank Hopper:<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">How could someone have shutters for their windows and no trailer for their boat?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

So if I could put my condo on a trailer, I wouldn't need these shutters?

Very few South Florida sailboaters have trailers. With a 12 month boating season (except for the occasional hurricane), why bother? On top of that, even fewer Florida boatyards have space to either store empty trailers or additional boats on trailers in preparation for a storm. This is particularly true here in South Florida where a large number of "snowbirds" put their SeaRays and Dorals and Silvertons on the hard while they go back north for the summer. Most of the dwindling number of boatyards are at or near capacity already.

But that doesn't mean some insurance types aren't studying Frank's idea of mandatory trailer ownership as yet another way to deny a future claim. If I'm forced to buy a trailer just to let it rust in a field somewhere, I'll just sell the boat and take up golf.

Steve

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djn
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Response Posted - 08/28/2006 : 22:51:51

Hi Steve, I just clicked on your pic in your signature block and was suprized and delighted to see the "Other" pic. Thanks, Cheers.

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Response Posted - 08/29/2006 : 09:36:43

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by djn
 ...I just clicked on your pic in your signature block and was suprized and delighted to see the "Other" pic...
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Those weren't quite the words that came to my mind...

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 08/29/2006 : 17:23:51

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by djn
 Hi Steve, I just clicked on your pic in your signature block and was suprized and delighted to see the "Other" pic. Thanks, Cheers.
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I forgot that I had done that. Just hope that my wife never clicks on it 'cuz that ain't her in the hidden photo.

steve

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 08/29/2006 : 17:57:42

We all know who she is annd what Hunter 25.5 she is on.

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djn
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Response Posted - 08/29/2006 : 18:46:24

Thats a good one Steve....don't you know that if you have hidden pictures it should be of a motorcycle or boat. Cheers.

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Don B
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Response Posted - 08/30/2006 : 07:58:46

Steve, wasn't that his back up "depth sounder"...

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