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Frank Hopper
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Initially Posted - 11/04/2006 : 20:51:25

This is a 27 on ebay but the point is that they built a much larger galley using a settee as a base. An interesting moderately invasive major redesign.

I hate that we do not have a pull out double in the salon, A pull out berth must have the wide port bulkhead for a slider rail. I wonder if moving the galley so the vanity sink becomes the galley sink and build a galley cabinet over the last three feet of the starboard settee, (the bulkhead wood make nice wall space), and allow the port settee to be extended in to the existing galley area. Hmmm.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 11/04/2006 : 21:04:45

The port side is a double in the dinette version Only its for short people.

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 11/05/2006 : 07:46:59

they just don't build things for us normal sized 6'2" folks.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 11/05/2006 : 08:16:10

They make stuff for us 6' to 6'2" folks, its called a Benneteau 42.7. Ironically, the one guy at the club that I know who has one is about 5'8"

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 11/05/2006 : 10:15:28

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Duane Wolff
 The port side is a double in the dinette version Only its for short people.
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VERY short!

If I understand Frank's thought, the downside appears to me to be giving up the better headroom aft for working in the galley. Otherwise, who really needs two sinks (head and galley) in a 25' sailboat??

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sweetcraft
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Response Posted - 11/05/2006 : 11:30:43

Keep it simple as with the double sink don't you now have to have bigger holding tanks for all the meals you will be serving to all the guests.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 11/05/2006 : 11:51:03

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">...who really needs two sinks (head and galley) in a 25' sailboat??<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I don't even use the one dinky sink that's on my boat.

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djn
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Response Posted - 11/05/2006 : 13:09:06

Hi Don, I use the sink every time I sail. It holds my wallet, car keys, GPS and Depth finder covers, cabin lock and keys, and cell phone. What I am finding out about Lake St. Clair, is that is not really suited for cruising. It takes nine hours to get to Huron or Erie just to cruise for the weekend...that does not leave much time. Cheers.

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bbriner
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Response Posted - 11/05/2006 : 13:20:50

We use the sink the way as Dennis, plus we haven't felt the need for any other cruising amenities really. My other half has no desire to go out on the Pacific so the only "cruising" we do is from marina to marina. We enjoy being a tourist in the other towns... walk around the town, go out to a nice dinner, in the morning we find a breakfast cafe someplace and watch the locals go about their thing. I really, honestly don't think I even want to spend much more than a couple of days on a C25. I'm only 5'8" but I get sore from hunching over just for those few days (we don't have a pop-top). I do enjoy the time on deck sailing though!

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 11/05/2006 : 13:45:27

For day sailing we've used the sink to hold keys, wallets, keel winch handle (if racing a long downwind) empty beer cans when we are too busy to get to the trash bag.

When we actually do more than sail for an afternoon and it is a cruising trip we will use the sink for what it is made for, plus all of the above. Just not at the same time. For the past two years however without a tank or pump the sink has been a direct link to the lake and that is about it.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 11/05/2006 : 16:40:47

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by djn
 Hi Don, I use the sink every time I sail. It holds my wallet, car keys, GPS and Depth finder covers, cabin lock and keys, and cell phone. What I am finding out about Lake St. Clair, is that is not really suited for cruising. It takes nine hours to get to Huron or Erie just to cruise for the weekend...that does not leave much time. Cheers.
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Yes, Dennis, the sink is perfect for keys, wallets,..etc.

As for cruising Lake St. Clair, I don't know much about it having only passed through it twice, but I have a sailor friend in a C30 (I think you may have met him) who'll cruise to places like Belle River and one of the Windsor marinas by Peche Island. He'll also overnight in the anchorage by MetroBeach for a change of pace.

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djn
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Response Posted - 11/05/2006 : 17:09:16

Hi Don, yes there are a couple places to layover on St. Clair, It is the day and a half or two wasted going to and from huron or erie, that keeps me from taking three and four day weekends. Cheers.

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mashedcat
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Response Posted - 11/05/2006 : 18:45:26

we do the dishes in two nesting plastic dishpans which are stored in the dumpster. the sink catches the drips from the faucet when we pump water out for cooking and coffee. the need for a sink of the size provided on a 25 is minimal. i did have a smaller one on my last boat though. it didnt drain to anything and was therefore useless for catching drips. we live on the boat for one month a year cruising so make the best of what we have and do pretty well.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 11/05/2006 : 20:13:40

That counter top looks like the partical board product sold in the major stores (lowes/home depot/et.al.) and I agree on not needing a larger sink. We go out for a minimum of 3 nights and we cook etc. on board. The sink really is used! But to have a huge great thing like that on board would be disturbing to say the least!

Paul

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 11/05/2006 : 20:33:20

wait till you see my next mod:

A snooker table

Watch this site for further developments

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mashedcat
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Response Posted - 11/05/2006 : 20:53:24

all in all, sort of ugly

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 11/05/2006 : 21:53:08

What these people did with the idea of using settees as a platform for a cabin redesign is ugly and has a stupid sink, however, my traditional interior frustrates me a lot and if I chopped out my stove platform to extend my port settee I would probably ad a very nice storage cabinet against the starboard vanity bulkhead.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 11/06/2006 : 06:42:52

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Gloss
 wait till you see my next mod:

A snooker table

Watch this site for further developments
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A snooker table would be nice. Especially since sailors are known for bar games – pool, darts and that ring game in the Bahamas etc. I question a snooker table though when compared to a regular pocket billiards table. The extra balls flying around could get dangerous in close quarters. Even with the pop top, I don’t think you could get a snooker table in one piece slate into the cabin and as you all know, playing on a split slate surface is quite uncivilized. I have one of those short cues for tight area shots if you do go with it it – which by the way doubles as a nice tiller extender.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 11/06/2006 : 07:41:40

you are thinking billiard table

Pocket billiards, (aka pool) six pockets with beveled pocket entry sides
Snooker, six pockets with curved entry sides into smaller pockets
Billiard, no pockets

I vote darts, 301.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 11/06/2006 : 08:22:39

You are right Frank, I put in a mod to the original post to save myself. You'd never know I spent 3 hours a day in pool halls back in college.

I do however play darts and will gladly take you on....Double in Double out?

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 11/06/2006 : 08:33:49

OK, you guys win, no room for a snooker table.

I'll go with foosball and a tap for a keg.

Makes as much sense as a double sink

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 11/06/2006 : 10:59:06

Have you thought about a gimballed snooker table?

PO modified my boat, he moved the galley to the starboard side, and extended the port side settee all the way aft. He's a tall guy and needed a long enough place to sleep.

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 11/06/2006 : 13:19:19

For ours, we are reserving the settee area for a queen size aerobed. Since the weather has turned, I have to get it ready by the next warm weekend for an overnight..whenever that might be. Honestly, we use our sinks for our teapot that we heat up water for coffee in. We use a french press to brew our coffee, so hot water is all that is needed.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 11/06/2006 : 15:51:13

The inflatable queen bed is the kid's favorite hang out when underway.

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 11/06/2006 : 16:57:36

I better get busy, that looks real comfortable. Much more so than the V berth (with head down) or the quarter berth (one person only).

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djn
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Response Posted - 11/06/2006 : 17:09:17

Look like they are having fun Don. It becomes a small cabin with that layout. Cheers.

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