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jerlim
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Response Posted - 11/07/2006 : 14:30:06

Just imagine how impressed the USCG will be when they find the set-up :)
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takokichi
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Response Posted - 11/07/2006 : 14:33:06

Any of you do the first beer routine racing? Some of the boats I race on have a tradition. One beer for each crew person, plus one extra. Skipper gives the one extra as the "first beer" to the crewmember who contributed the most that day. Then everyone gets their beer and in the boat goes.

Drunk on a boat = dead far too often for my comfort level.

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djn
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Response Posted - 11/07/2006 : 15:03:59

I'm sure I did Frank. In hind sight, I am so glad they left me. I spent a peaceful night on the lake. There are old sailors and bold sailors but no old bold sailors. Cheers.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 11/07/2006 : 15:10:58

Justin -

Not a bad tradition...The only tradition we have is a pass around beer for the crew on a downwind leg. 9 or ten guys, one or two beers....long story how it started, but when its a really hot day (80+) the captain might splice the main brace with a pass around. (1.2 ounces vs. 1.2 gallons.)

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Response Posted - 11/07/2006 : 16:17:34

It's funny, now that I think of it. When I first began sailing, I was prone to take out a six pack or so for me and a couple of buds. Then it was a six pack for the bunch, then I finally arrived at a point where I permitted myself one beer when in sight of the marina on the way home. Now I don't even do that. Old age, small bladder, good sense? I dunno. Even when the anchor is down I am very cautious. You never know when fate is going to turn you back from a barfly to a sailor.

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Response Posted - 11/07/2006 : 16:23:17

"You never know when fate is going to turn you back from a barfly to a sailor."

Amen. I am willing to trust that the boat is safe and will not require my sober intervention only after I have cashed the buyer's check

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Response Posted - 11/07/2006 : 19:57:42

By now, I suspect Colby ("new sailor") has migrated to the Budweiser International Association forum, or maybe the Hunter Marinaminium forum for camaraderie and advice... He may not have realized that we're a mix of serious sailors (most of you) and old farts (me). Colby, I hope you get to both stages.

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 11/07/2006 : 21:42:40

Not to mention . . . SEVEN guys on a C25? That's, um, . . . pretty cozy.

Wrong boat, methinks.

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djn
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Response Posted - 11/07/2006 : 22:34:13

Sounds like it Brooke. It reminds me of the Monty Phithon song....."they sleep in sererate bunks, but they blow each other kissies. Men, Men, Men, Men"

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 11/07/2006 : 22:43:24

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Brooke Willson
 Not to mention . . . SEVEN guys on a C25? That's, um, . . . pretty cozy.

Wrong boat, methinks.

Brooke
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i've had seven - cozy but not overloaded....the boat that is.

8 would be my breaking point

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new sailor
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Response Posted - 11/07/2006 : 23:31:20

Nevermind y'all, I'll rethink the keg idea. Anyone know where I can find a 12 volt frozen margarita machine?

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Ericson33
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Response Posted - 11/08/2006 : 01:57:22

forget the 12 volt-go with gas.

http://search.cartserver.com/search/search.cgi?cartid=a-3439& category=atmaster& maxhits=10& keywords=blender& submit=Go

http://www.gasblender.com/

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 11/08/2006 : 09:11:22

Damn--I can't find the link to the jet-powered blender, featured years ago on Trailersailor.com...

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 11/08/2006 : 09:23:21

There are a number of crazy blenders out there....you should have seen the one they pulled out at nationals for the Blender Party

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 11/08/2006 : 10:22:48

Hey Colby, I like it when things get shaken up a bit, brings the suds to the surface.
Maybe now isn't a good time for me to mention that I'm trading in my C25 for a brand new Macgregor M26.

Okay, just kiddn' ....I was going to buy a brand new MacGregor as a fixer-upper project

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Response Posted - 11/08/2006 : 10:54:34

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by stampeder
 Maybe now isn't a good time for me to mention that I'm trading in my C25 for a brand new Macgregor M26.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
You're not foolin' us... not when you don't even know the correct name of the model!

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PZell
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Response Posted - 11/08/2006 : 12:49:10

Well, just had to chime in. My buddy Jim on Hey Jude carries aquavit, I carry Cherry Heering, and one of my racing competitors in the next berth carries Bourbon. It's sort of a tradition after a race or hard days sail to take a shot or two after snugged up at the dock. Caps the day off nicely.

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Response Posted - 11/08/2006 : 17:01:16

Since I don't believe anyone has actually responded to the question posted, I'm going to put safety aside for a moment and assume there is a designated helmsperson on board...

Having no experience with kegs on boats, but lots with kegs and plumbing kegs in general, I do believe if you keep it cold, the beer will flow just fine.

If it were me, I'd not put it in the Lazarette, that's valuable storage space. I'd keep it cold in a large igloo cooler, and keep it down below, perhaps on the quarter berth. I'd definitely spend the dough for the Co2 tank, a small 2.5 pound capacity will do the job, they are about 12" high. You don't want the hassle of having to hand pump all day long. You may want to consider plumbing the tap on either side of the companionway, as I really think the cockpit seat wall will result in some nasty trips and ankle scratches. Besides, the slope will force you to pour properly, with the cup tilted! Oh, one lesson learned- buy you hoses from the beer equipment distributor, the vinyl ones at the hardware store makes the beer taste like, well, vinyl.

Good luck...

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 11/08/2006 : 18:12:26

now if you really wanna party down:
I'll come out and start IV's on everyone on the keg boat, hook them up to a manifold on the keg and then you could get a really quick buzz. You could even buy cheap beer as you wouldn't have to bother with the drinking. That will impress the Coasties even more.
And since you will have to pee a lot, I'll bring some Foley catheters, but you will have to insert them yourselves.

But seriously, a tap might be a good idea on my new Cabo Rico 48. It shouldn't be long now until I get one. I have already saved up $347.43 for it.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 11/08/2006 : 18:56:55

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by millermg
 Since I don't believe anyone has actually responded to the question posted, I'm going to put safety aside for a moment and assume there is a designated helmsperson on board...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Actually I did respond. I said that you'd have Foamy beer, most likely warm because there would be no way to stabilize the keg and keep the beer from sloshing. And trust me, I've tried in on a 30 foot boat with a 12 foot beam for a dock party. The cruise to the destination and the simple motion of the lake kept it foamy all night.

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Response Posted - 11/08/2006 : 21:35:03

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by millermg
 ...I'm going to put safety aside for a moment and assume there is a designated helmsperson on board...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
One sober helmsman and six drunk crewmen on a sailboat puts that helmsman in a very bad place. And as captain, he's responsible for the consequences.

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new sailor
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Response Posted - 11/08/2006 : 23:42:23

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I've tried in on a 30 foot boat with a 12 foot beam for a dock party. The cruise to the destination and the simple motion of the lake kept it foamy all night.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I knew someone out there has actually attempted this. Thanks for the reply. The foam issue is what concerned me most. Since it didn't work for you too well on a bigger boat, I assume a C-25 would be just as bad.

Well, since someone has actually admitted to sailing with a keg aboard, has anyone ever tried karaoke setup along with a disco ball?

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Response Posted - 11/09/2006 : 16:30:28

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by new sailor
 Well, since someone has actually admitted to sailing with a keg aboard, has anyone ever tried karaoke setup along with a disco ball?

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Ya, they tried it in a quiet cove off the Connecticut River one night... Next morning, only the canvas over the flying bridge was visible.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 11/11/2006 : 16:59:17

1/6th kegs aka soda kegs filled with a high quality IPA make for a very tidy campsite when I do the annual guys week in the very remote wilds of Maine. After consuming a few beers this summer and lamenting over the quantity of bottles I would have to dispose of at the dinghy dock in Newport RI, i remembered the 1/6 kegs and decided to investigate.

Yes, they fit nicely in the lazarette. I drilled a hole just above the icebox and ran the hose from the keg into about 9-10 feet of copper tubing which sits at the bottom of the icebox. I connected the plastic tubing and release valve to the copper tubing and Voila! 2 cases of beer without the bottles. No real foam problems, just don't over pump the keg. To pump the keg, just reach into the lazarette once or twice a day. Obviously the ice in the icebox chills the beer as it passes thru the copper tubing and boy does it come out frosty cold!!!! Use an insulated mug with a sliding slot opening to eliminate spillage.

As far as legal issues go.... Ummm, think about it. The coasties aren't really gonna find my set up, and even if they did - so what? Sure beats two garbage bags full of bottles! The coasties only care that the captain is truly in command of his/her vessel, not whether they have the ability to serve up cold beverages once in the anchorage or even moderate consumption while underway. I've seen a lot of small vessel newbies (like C-25 owners) who are not in command of their vessels even while stone sober!

I have heard all of the arguments for not consuming beer on a boat! The best one - and perhaps the most ridiculous - was that if you fell overboard and ingested saltwater that you would not be able to breathe as the gasses created would prevent you from inhaling. Like dropping a bit of salt in a beer makes it foam, etc...

Sailing and the consumption of alcoholic beverages at sea are traditions as old as sailing itself. Common sense dictates abstinance when conditions are foul. A prudent mariner does not allow his/her guests to get sloppy, ever! Guests can fall overboard in the middle of the night after bumping their head on something knocking them unconscious and drown. Managing risks is what sailing is all about. If you are uncomfortable with alcoholic beverages on your boat, don't allow them. But please don't impose your beliefs on me at the dock when my Zodiac has 2 kegs and six cases of beer on it for a three week trip!

You can have my beer and my tiller when you pry my cold dead hands off both.

Sten - "82 SR FK

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Response Posted - 11/13/2006 : 20:23:05

The Brits used to give the sailors grog, rum & water, every day. But then it was recognized (1970) that it left the sailors 'Groggy' (newtish!). Back in Nelsons day it was ok to keep the crew 'happy' but today, those same sailors that are expected to manage themselves on a ship at sea, with all the responsibilities that involved.

Please... Don't even laugh at it. Too many families have been destroyed by the lack of foresight when on duty ( a skipper is always on duty ) and under the infulence. It just doesn't cut it.

If you love your kids, then don't drink and die!

If you don't have kids, then think of your mother, and don't drink and die!

This subject really gets under my skin! Hearing of boating accidents where a family is lost or destroyed due to lack of ability is one thing, but to listen to folks ignoring it at the cost of their own or their friends/family lives is another.

It's not a belief, it's a fact - boats captained under the influence cause disaster to families and friends.

What would you tell your neighbors wife if your 'friend' was one tragically lost because 'hey, we were just having fun!'

And if that is not enough, then think of the issue when someone is on their boat and I on mine, and they cause an accident/death on my boat! What are you going to say then... on camera... in the news... to your neighbors... to your workmates... to your family... to your friends.. 'Hey, we were just having fun'

Paul with a Family & Friends that I value.

It is ironic that this subject is discussed this weekend, Veterans Weekend.
We have the freedom to choose, to be idiots, and to pay the consequence. But we have the choice. Let's make the right choice before we even step on the boat.

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