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anybody have the new 4 spring motor mount?

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Gloss
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Initially Posted - 05/17/2007 : 14:00:00

Hi there,
I was wondering if anybody has bought the new 4 spring Garhauer motor mount from CD.
If so, how is it working out? How well does it balance out a heavy honda, or other motor? How much past horizontal does it drop?

My Honda, at about 118 lbs is too much for even my Garelick salt water heavy duty motor mount. It is a real pain to lift up. I'm sure it would be just right for a 100 lb motor.
I noticed on the Garelick website that they have a hydraulic model with a hand pump for lifting. Also an electrical operated hydraulic model. That looks really sweet, but I choked at the 1,800 price. (plus the cost of a bunch of Ancor wiring.)

Frank Gloss
Formerly 89WK/TR
85 Ericson 32-3 shoal draft "Molto Bene"

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 05/17/2007 : 16:46:08

I am happy with mine.

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 05/17/2007 : 20:00:29

Hey Frank
That looks like an older Honda you have there, which were lighter I believe. How much does your motor weigh?

about how far below horizontal will it drop?

Thanks

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 05/17/2007 : 21:02:58

Frank's Honda OB is like mine, and weighs in at 102.5 LBs. Dry weight according to the manual. The electric start model is 110LBs

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 05/17/2007 : 21:04:47

Hey Frank (Gloss)... Do you remember this idea?

http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=11987&SearchTerms=bracket,lift

Looked interesting to me.

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A Devries
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Response Posted - 05/17/2007 : 21:40:10

I put one on last year and it is working very well. The hardest part is slinging 120 lbs of motor over the stern rail and managing to keep your feet in the boat.
I see from the pictures that I may have my bracket mounted lower than Frank has, assuming the holes are in the same spot on our boats. Frank has his bolts in the bottom hole and mine is in the middle.
Our motor is the extra longshaft and everything is working out very well.
Hope this helps
Albert

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 05/17/2007 : 23:18:03

I installed one a little over a year ago and then bought a new Honda Feb06 - 9.9hp 25" shaft. The installation went fine. You can see photos on my website.

In the beginning, the bracket was a little stiff to operate. I could not get the bracket into the lowest position slot. I even tried standing on top of the motor. But I left the motor in the down position a few days and then had no problems after that getting it into the lowest slot. To release the motor, I have to put my foot on the bracket handle and gently push down. Then it comes out of the slot and the motor springs up about 5-6". Pulling it up the rest of the way is not hard. No block and tackle system needed but I left my old blcok and tackle on and attached to the motor as a safety in case the motor ever slipped off the bracket.

One thing to check ! The 4 spring bracket I bought from CD had two self-locking nuts near/under one of the springs that were not tight and the bolts were undersized since no thread was showing past the nut. My website provides details. I replaced the bolts with slightly longer ones. This was an easy fix. I also wrote an EMail to CD and believe they were going to check their dtock for similar concerns.

I am completely satisfied with the operation of the bracket for my Honda.

Out sailing tonight till 1000pm. Great night !
(I will be away this weekend picking up my daughter and all her stuff from college. She just graduated. May not get onto the Forum till Sunday.)

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sweetcraft
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Response Posted - 05/18/2007 : 00:36:52

I have had good experience now with the 4 spring for the 15hp Honda with even the hydraulic lift. Made the axe handle tool also for comments above. I do believe the outboard is closer to 130 with the lift but it has remote controls and no handle and I can lift it without much effort. The hydraulic lift does give enough clearance for sailing in moderate conditions. I have found that you must lock the mount handle when backing or the outboard will lift itself and the mount. The white PVC pipes are for holding the outboard steady when traveling and the line between the stern pulpit and the mount handle take the strain off of it for travel.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/18/2007 : 06:28:37

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dave Bristle
 Hey Frank (Gloss)... Do you remember this idea?

Looked interesting to me.
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I showed that device to my friend at work because he was having difficulties lifting his engine. He made an exact replica and it works like a champ!

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DanM
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Response Posted - 05/18/2007 : 06:53:48

The PO rigged a simple block and half inch line from the engine handle to the stern pulpit to assist in the engine lift. I improved the mechanical advantage by adding a second block and loop with snap clips for easy attachment and removal. Sorry I can't post a picture.
The axe handle solution looked too clumsy, and not very nautical, by comparison.

When I bought the heavier 4-stroke Nissan I also bought the Garhauer (on the Admiral's order). Works like a charm!

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 05/18/2007 : 07:46:42

To me, the multi-position axe handle looked simpler, easier to use, and no less "nautical" than pulling on a line with a multi-part block that might obstruct access to the Honda's front-mounted shifter... It supposedly even unlatches the handle remotely. Very elegant!

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 05/18/2007 : 08:10:19

I do not look forward to the day when I am not strong enough to handle my OB with one hand.

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 05/19/2007 : 08:27:10

the ax handle is also handy when you are boarded by pirates
I'm seriously considering replacing my Garelick bracket with the Garhauer. The garelick would be perfect for a 100 lb motor.

Thanks for the input.

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