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redviking
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Initially Posted - 05/29/2007 : 19:19:35

Yikes!Dennis must be rubbing off on people 'cuz I too no longer own a C25!!!

Even better SHE SOLD AT ASKING PRICE! $9,750.00!!!! OK, I admit I asked for $500 more on this list, but I figured you all would talk me down to $9,750.00 anyway or buy one of those do it yourselfers on ebay for $2K! Anyhow, buyer is transporting her to NJ from MASS! The buyer was the third to inquire and bought Zephyr sight unseen and without a survey. The buyer got a great boat at a good value! A month back when a swap meet discussion got going about the value of our C25's I argued that Zephyr was worth 12K - she probably is...

I listed her on the 20th and she was sold by last Friday morning and the check got here today! 9 days total!

Our new C&C 39 will close on June 15th or so - so for the moment I am boatless!

Our new vessel is fully equipped for cruising and has been around at least once! Those things we call winches look like salt and pepper shakers by comparison! She has one huge Barient #32 electric winch and a matching non-electric one on the port side. GALLEY is to PORT as is the dinette!!! Like a proper vessel should be laid out! Wind vane, below decks hydraulic autopilot, wind gen, SSB with modem packet, diesel heater, engine driven refrigeration, windlass with 200 feet of heavy chain, etc.... She is an old school Canadian C&C 1973 vintage IOR vessel that can fly! 6'6" draft with the whale fin keel, ballast to displacement ration at 50%, capable of 180 mile days!

When my wife and I went to clean up Zephyr before selling her, we ran into Leon one of the wise old salts who sails out of our marina. He saw us and yelled, "Where are you two going today? Nova Scotia?" Little did he know that he wasn't too far from the truth!

Sten
DPO Zephyr C25 FK SR
Vessel to be C&C39

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 05/29/2007 : 19:23:39

Congrat Sten,
stay aboard and frequent the Admirals Area et.al.

How about some pics of the new(to you) boat!

Paul

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redviking
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Response Posted - 05/30/2007 : 09:03:36

I will post pics as soon as my web guy gets some bug fixed??? She is purty and worth the wait. Watch this space!

sten

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tinob
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Response Posted - 05/30/2007 : 14:28:35

Way to go Sten best of all on your new adventure.

Val on Calista, # 3936, Patchogue, N.Y.

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johnsonp
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Response Posted - 05/30/2007 : 15:06:12

Sten...
Fantstic.
Don't forget the pictures.
Deisel engines,fuel pumps,all kinds of valves,110 volts,12volts
0volts,hydraulics what fun....

By the way I'm on the boat using Go2wire.
paulj

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 05/30/2007 : 19:08:23

Way to go Sten

So what is a whale fin keel?

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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 05/30/2007 : 19:34:38

and what is "IOR vessel"? Also my congrats on a bigger boat!

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redviking
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Response Posted - 05/31/2007 : 18:33:46

Thanks! I'll work on pics tonight. Just met with the new owner of Zephyr and spent a few hours going over the details... Setting her up for transport, etc... Anyhow, the 1982 Honda started on the second pull, and on a half-ass pull when we came back to her ball! She showed well and her new owner had no regrets - which is way cool!!!!! Zephyr went to a couple of women in NJ who have two little children, etc... They are going to teach their kids to sail and both partners enjoy sailing. Now I know why there was always a rainbow flag on the boat! She has found a great home!

Whale fin keel swoops back like a full keel but then stops and curves back up towards the hull. Pics of her bottom to follow.

IOR boats - International Ocean Racing - rules were the thing in the 70's and 80's??? Someone will correct me if I am wrong I hope.... There were 50 C&C 39's built during the Cuthbertson & Cassian era, winning a modest number of cups and many are still campaigning aggressively.

sten

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 05/31/2007 : 20:02:17

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Ben - FL
 and what is "IOR vessel"?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
More than you wanted to know, from Stason.org...
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The International Offshore Rule (IOR) is a measurement rule for racing boats. The IOR evolved from the Cruising Club of America (CCA) rule for racer/cruisers.

The IOR concentrates on hull shape with length, beam, free board and girth measurements, foretriangle, mast and boom measurements, and stability with an inclination test.

The IOR also identifies features which are dangerous or it can't fairly rate, and penalizes or prohibits them.

The measurements and penalties are used to compute the handicap number which is an "IOR length" in feet. A typical IOR 40 footer (a "one tonner") has rating of 30.55 feet.

In a handicapped race, the IOR length is used to compute a "time
allowance," in seconds per nautical mile (s/M) which is multiplied by
the distance of the race, and subtracted from the boat's actual time,
to compute the boat's corrected time. Longer IOR length gives a
smaller time allowance.

The IOR is also used to define "level classes," where no time correction is
used. Every boat in a class has an IOR number less than some number.
The Ton Classes, (Mini Ton, 1/4 Ton, 1/2 Ton, 3/4 Ton, 1 Ton, and Two
Ton), as well as 50-footer, ULDB 70 and Maxi classes are examples.

To account for improvements in design and materials, boats are given an "old age allowance" which decreases their IOR length as time passes. In spite of the old age allowance, about 3/4 s/M/year on 40 footer, boats over several years old are usually not competitive, which is why IOR handicap racing is dead.

Peculiarities of IOR designs result from features which increase actual performance more than they increase IOR length, or other odd rules; IOR hulls bulge at girth measurement points; a reverse transom moves a girth measurement point to a thicker part of the hull; waterline length is measured while floating upright, so large overhangs are used to increase waterline sailing at speed; the stability factor ignores crew, so IOR designers assume lots of live ballast; after the 1979 Fastnet race excessive tenderness was penalized; full length battens were prohibited to prevent main sail roach area, but short battens became strong enough that the IOR had to start measuring and penalizing extra main sail girth; main sail area adds less IOR length than jib area, so new IOR boats are fractionally rigged; The IOR encourages high free board, and high booms and prohibits keels wider at the bottom than at the top (bulbs).
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Now you know where those severely reverse-raked transoms came from.

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