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Tom Potter
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Initially Posted - 06/18/2007 : 19:27:53

In Pensacola last week it was hot. As I was trying to get to sleep in the heat knowing that Paul was in the next slip relaxing in his A/C got me thinking about finding the smallest portable A/C I could find. Well I ran across this [url="http://mcleanparts.net/genesis13_17.shtml"]little beauty[/url]. "The Genesis™ 13", this little unit is so small you could sit it anywhere and it would be out of the way. It don't have to be in the hatch to drain the condensation, you can take it on and off easy. COOL! this is it!

Whats this? no price listed on the web site... So I fire off an e-mail and today I got a response. $1951.00

The search continues...

1997 250 TR WK (sold)
1984 O'Day 28 (sold)
1979 SISU 22
Bath, NC.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 06/18/2007 : 20:00:17

have you looked at those standing portable models in the 3 to 5 boat unit range? If you have shore power and can plug in you can hook it up and run a hose into the bilge for the condensation....

Sunpentown is one of the names I remember, but there are many...

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 06/18/2007 : 20:06:37

Tom, the base price for my A/C unit was $1,500, but then I purchased the fittings, thru hull, wiring, and the 110v system. that hit the price up quite a bit.

The unit you show does need an air vent, otherwise it'll blow cold air out one vent and hot air out the other

You're welcome to stop by when you meet us on the water for a cool down

And di you notice how this page is showing Air Conditioner offers in the ads by google!

Paul.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 06/18/2007 : 20:14:29

something like this is what I was thinking

http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product_Id=4150717&JRSource=googlebase.datafeed.AGU+AF8000E

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atgep
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Response Posted - 06/18/2007 : 22:45:47

I would love to help you spend your money.

Check this out from defender.

http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|6880|48359|812829|813257&id=49449

Complete install kit is another $273.

Tom.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 06/18/2007 : 22:55:57

Tom("Cote d'Azure") We saw a boat with that same spinnaker on the BEER cruise!

Paul

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atgep
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Response Posted - 06/18/2007 : 23:58:04

Yeah,....dont rub it in!!!!!I sure missed being there.

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atgep
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Response Posted - 06/18/2007 : 23:59:59

Yeah,....dont rub it in!!!!!I sure missed being there.

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 06/19/2007 : 07:07:25

Tom, what is this from Defender? All I get is "Defender processing error!"

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 06/19/2007 : 07:19:00

The link should have been [url="http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|6880|48359|812829|813257&id=49449"]this[/url]

Paul

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 06/19/2007 : 07:21:16

Here in Kansas I would not consider a unit under 9000 btu, 12-9 would be the range I would shop and I would look at Ocean Breeze with their low profile unit. Our boats are very good candidates for marine AC from and installation standpoint but we are a dry bilge boat. Marine AC is of course intended for power boats which keep the condensation tray level and the bilge dry. Sailboats heel and dump the condensation tray which runs to the bilge unless you have a product from Mermaid called the condensator which sucks the condensation tray to try and reduce the amount of water that could spill out.
Most know I have used a window AC on my two Catalina 25s for several years. I am very happy with the way it all works with several reservations, rain requires me to rig a tent over my cockpit fans, the v-berth is difficult to cool and the circulation of the cabin air needs to be set up correctly. One huge advantage over a carry on is that the unit is always on board and ready to run.

I use two high velocity fans in the cockpit, one blows air down and slightly forward to force circulation into the sail locker, a second fan sits next to the first and sucks the hot exhaust air out of the locker.

I now have a 6.5k btu unit with remote control in the quarterberth, I had a 5k btu unit in my '82. You can see it here.

I use a large fan to force the cool air out into the cabin.

My system cost about $200.

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DoubleD
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Response Posted - 06/19/2007 : 08:33:58

I use a window unit from Home Depot ($49.95) back in the quarter berth also and a small fan to push the air into the cabin. It works pretty good, it takes the edge off the heat.

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 06/19/2007 : 09:40:53

Nobody mentioned [url="http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|6880|48359|812831&id=340141"]this[/url] carry on. Any reason why? Is it not good?

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 06/19/2007 : 09:45:10

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by DaveR
 Nobody mentioned [url="http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|6880|48359|812831&id=340141"]this[/url] carry on. Any reason why? Is it not good?
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I have one I bought used on ebay. It works, but it's absurdly expensive. It doesn't require any boat modifications, however.

I did have to remove the aftermost handle so it would fit in the hatch.

Brooke

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 06/19/2007 : 10:13:51

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by DaveR
 Nobody mentioned [url="http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|6880|48359|812831&id=340141"]this[/url] carry on. Any reason why? Is it not good?
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I have never seen one that was not for sale. I think people get tired of horsing them around. Mine is installed, all I do is unplug shore power and I am sailing.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 06/19/2007 : 20:40:05

We have one of the cruisairs in the van for the Evelyn. Back before the crew actually got a condo or cottage we'd pull it out of the van and put it on the boat. First guy to the boat in the morning checks the official posting board. Second guy picks up the weather at the weather tent. third guy pulls the AC off the boat and carries back to the van.

Now it only comes out if the interior gets soaked - the duhumidifier part helps dry out the cabin.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 06/20/2007 : 11:04:12

Being a founder member of the K.I.S.S. Club, I bought a small window unit from Home Depot (5,000 BTU and $49.95). I built a stand to fit on the top step of the companionway, tilted aft so that when the A/C was positioned with its butt end protruding into the cockpit it would drain outside. With a companionway cover over it it works perfectly even in the Texas heat. (Needless to say, it comes off the boat when we are racing!)

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 06/20/2007 : 13:29:53

It's a hoot reading about all the AC solutions. Here in the PNW we think about heaters.

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