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monty0
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Initially Posted - 07/17/2007 : 09:55:20

When reversing our motor to come into dock water comes into the boat via the keel hose that leads to the winch. The front edge of the aft berth gets wet which can give damp dreams to the person who sleeps back there.

From our fellow Catalina owners at the lake I've heard of two possible fixes: (1) Rig some kind of rubber gasket that can be slid down the cable and hose clamped onto the hose (2) Jam a bunch of pieces of closed cell foam (a swim noodle chopped up) down the tube until now more can go down there.

Any opinions on these fixes or other suggestions?

Monty

1977 Catalina 25 #66 SRSK "Prana"

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gbeardjr
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Response Posted - 07/17/2007 : 10:03:57

Just don't use reverse

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 07/17/2007 : 13:56:07

We had a piece of radiator hose that was hose clamped to the volcano in the glass that went all the way up the cable to just short of the winch. never had a problem with reverse and water coming in

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kevinmac
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Response Posted - 07/17/2007 : 14:17:33

OK, having a C250 and not a C25, I gotta ask: Why is there a hose leading to a winch? What the heck are you guys talking about...

Signed,

Duh...

(Kevin)

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Ed Cassidy
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Response Posted - 07/17/2007 : 18:31:06

Kevin,
I'm new at this but I can answer this one. The cable that raises the swing keel comes up through the bottom of the hull, up through what was aptly described as a volcano and goes to the winch that reels in the cable. There is normally a piece of very expensive radiator hose attached to the top of the volcano but it stops well short of the winch. If you replace that radiator hose with a longer one that goes all the way up to the winch roller, it is much less likely that water will back up into the hose. As I describe it I came to the realization that Catalina built our boats with a 2" hole in the bottom that is not very well plugged!
Ed

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kevinmac
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Response Posted - 07/17/2007 : 19:22:26

Ahhhhh... Swing keel. Grasshopper understand now...

Thanks. ;-)

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 07/17/2007 : 20:17:22

Old sponge stuffed in the hose worked on my previous swing keel boat (Venture 23). Haven't seen any problems with water coming up the keelpipe on the C25. My keel hose comes up to within a couple inches of the winch.

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 07/21/2007 : 09:21:55

Go here:
http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=209

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 07/21/2007 : 12:02:08

Or you can just go to an autoparts store and pick up a few feet of hose. It will save you shipping.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 07/23/2007 : 20:07:23

I replaced my keel cable parts this year...the hose goes all the way up to the winch and so far not a drop has entered.
Last hose was only about 6" above the entry point (the volcano) so we used a sponge, that we stuffed in there.

We've also used duct tape, leaving minimal amount of room for the cable. That works well too.

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Alan Clark
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Response Posted - 08/07/2007 : 09:30:50

On the outside of the rubber hose we have placed a PVC pipe and on top of that a PVC pipe cap with a slit cut in it for the winch cable, It is NOT glued on just placed, also make sure your hose has double clamps on the volcano and they are TIGHT..otherwise you could in be in for a real SURPRISE!

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 08/07/2007 : 10:43:49

Good idea on the double hose clamps, Catalina only specs one.

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Admin
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Response Posted - 08/07/2007 : 14:55:47

Any hole below the waterline should be double clamped. It has become the industry standard on new boats and most surveyors will recommend it to the point that the insurance company will mandate it

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