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GaryB
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Initially Posted - 12/17/2007 :  15:46:32  Show Profile
Can someone tell me what the weight of a Standard Rig C-25 Mast is with the Spreaders installed? No furling gear. I did a search but didn't find anything specific.

I know a lot has been spoken about using A-Frames for raising and lowering the mast single-handed but can one person physically handle the mast without an A-Frame if you have another person controlling a rope from the bow? I don't want to take the time to construct an A-Frame for a once a year event if I can handle the mast by myself. I'm in good health and would use a mast-up to support the mast when I got it lowered part of the way.

GaryB
'89 SR/WK #5862
Kemah,TX

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'89 SR/WK #5862
Kemah,TX
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stampeder
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Response Posted - 12/17/2007 :  15:54:15  Show Profile
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 12/17/2007 :  16:26:01  Show Profile
It's a handfull... I strongly recommend you get <i>at least </i> a third person so you have at least two (maybe three) under the mast and one on the halyard or whatever. Position people to minimize the climbing around as it comes down. Remember that the halyard rapidly loses its leverage as the mast angles back unless you use a gin-pole. If, after the first time, you decide you don't need that many people next time, fine.
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 12/17/2007 :  16:58:30  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by GaryB</i>
<br />... but can one person physically handle the mast without an A-Frame if you have another person controlling a rope from the bow?
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Depends on the size of the gorilla, but I doubt it.
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 12/17/2007 :  18:43:32  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
under 30 yrs and if the mast is going down, with a mast crutch to catch it at 45 degrees, yes. But what if something hangs up? You really need a deck monkey too.
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 12/17/2007 :  20:02:18  Show Profile
Sounds like I'll be doing some recruiting shortly!

Thanks everyone for your input!

GaryB
'89 SR/WK #5862
Kemah,TX
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gbeardjr
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Response Posted - 12/18/2007 :  23:20:55  Show Profile
Hi Gary,

Just let me know when you need help with the mast and I can come help. I raised and lowered my mast with help from just one person last year. I used the method where two ropes attach to the boom and lowere it forward while in the water. It was a pain in the A$$ but we got it done.
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 12/19/2007 :  10:17:50  Show Profile
Thanks Garnett. I may take you up on your offer over the holidays if you're going to be around.

GaryB
'89 SR/WK #5862
KEMAH,TX
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2far2drive
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Response Posted - 12/19/2007 :  22:54:52  Show Profile  Visit 2far2drive's Homepage
ill be around 29-30th this month if you need some help. I would love to see this done and be there to help. let me know and Ill pm you my number. My boat is in seabrook
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FarFetched
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Response Posted - 12/19/2007 :  23:15:28  Show Profile
My wife and I took our mast down by ourselves, walked it down the dock, tied it to the top of our car and drove it across town (Seattle) home. After we finished the work we took it back and put it back up. It was a total pain and a little scary especially at that point when the mast is partially supported by the bow line but the shrouds are not keeping it on center. I wouldn't build an A frame but I may get help next time.

Good Luck
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 12/20/2007 :  08:51:09  Show Profile
David,

Thanks for the offer! Unfortunately my plans have changed and I will not be able to do the work on the mast.

Send me your number and I'll call you when I get ready to do it.

GaryB
'89 SR/WK #5862
Kemah,Tx
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 12/20/2007 :  11:36:37  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
The A frame is easy to make I built the whole thing for $10 from Home Depot and 1 hour with a hacksaw and a drill.
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 12/23/2007 :  09:50:37  Show Profile
I was walking through the garage yesterday and noticed a 10' section of antenna mast I had left over from when I put up my weather station. I thought that might be the perfect material to build an A-Frame. It's relatively light yet very stiff and the ends will flatten nicely.

I believe I purchased it at Home Depot or Radio Shack.

Has anyone built an A-Frame from this material? Any suggestions good or bad?

GaryB
'89 SR/WK #5862
Kemah,TX
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Jefffriday
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Response Posted - 12/25/2007 :  13:51:41  Show Profile
Gary, I have gotten mine up and down several times now by myself with the rope harness/ gin pole rig described somewhere here on the forum. get it set up right and it is really easy and stable. I did have a few moments of angst when I picked it up (very near you, Clear Lake Shores, legend Point) as I was unfamiliar with the boat and I bought it in the water, rigged, without and help from the PO (He had passed some time in the previous year, his family gave her to a broker to sell) Needless to say the whole experience, getting her on her nasty old trailer, getting the mast down, and getting the whole rig home to Colorado was, well, interesting. If it is set up right, that rig works quite well...
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 12/25/2007 :  22:05:27  Show Profile
Jeff,

Thanks for the information. I see your boat must have been built at the same time as mine. #5860 and 5862!

Gary
'89 SR/WK #5862
Kemah,TX
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britinusa
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Response Posted - 12/26/2007 :  05:07:22  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
Is there no way to employ babystays similar to the 250WB's ???

Paul
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