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Snap shackles....Am I missing something?

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cat1951
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Initially Posted - 01/22/2008 : 13:28:50

I am adding a snap shackle to my furler sail connection and want to put a snap shackle on the pendant that I am installing. I have been looking at prices and was shocked by the differences between vendors.
Being relatively new to this, I want to make sure I am comparing apples to apples. All I am doing is providing a good connection from the jib tack to the furler.

Here are two examples:

http://www.marinepartdepot.com/newststsweye2.html

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/2203/377%20710/0/snap%20shackles/Primary%20Search/mode%20matchallpartial/30/0?N=377%20710&Ne=0&Ntt=snap%20shackles&Ntk=Primary%20Search&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&Nao=30&Ns=0&keyword=snap%20shackles&isLTokenURL=true&storeNum=2&subdeptNum=323&classNum=324

Mike
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In my opinion 75% of the earth is water for a reason. That's why I sail.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 01/22/2008 : 13:47:38

Why do you want a snap shackle? It's a furler, so you probably won't be dropping sails all of the time. A regular shackle does the job just fine and won't come loose unexpectedly. And they are cheaper!

Sten

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SV Lysistrata - C&C 39 - St. Augustine, FL

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 01/22/2008 : 13:59:33

Well I guess it isn't a prerequisite. I was just adding to the pendant what is already on the halyard at the top. I don't have any specific desire except that it holds.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 01/22/2008 : 14:53:02

There's something wrong about a $7.32 snap-shackle! You don't want to end up with the sail and swivel sliding down and the halyard staying up there--we've had several threads on that. I'd stick with a locking halyard shackle (like the originals on mine).

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 01/22/2008 : 14:56:51

Mike,
If you are going to buy snap shackles, the price on your first link is a <i>VERY </i>good price for a new shackle.

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crcalhoon
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Response Posted - 01/22/2008 : 17:07:57

I have to jump in here. I once was at the masthead doing something, I forget what, to the roller furler and the snap shackle came apart in three pieces in my hand. Now that is scary. That is a part that is not inspected as frequently as it should be unless you are a dry sailor. Go with a regular shackle. Far less problematic. And cheaper too.

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 01/22/2008 : 20:01:03

Mike,
Just curious, what type furler do you have?

Edited by - Tom Potter on 01/22/2008 20:01:29

Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 01/22/2008 : 22:43:54

$7 come apart, $45 don't.

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 01/23/2008 : 08:45:16

Tom.. I have a Harken 00AL and have been using the shackles that were on the original halyard. It originally came with a hank on jib and I replaced it last year. We,(Sea Trac)and I looked it over a couple of weeks ago and found I have a problem with my halyard wrapping. So I am putting a pendant at the bottom to raise the sail off of the deck and raise the top roller closer to the top of the last foil increasing the angle to the roller.
The halyard already has a snap shackle on it, but I am going to redo the halyard eye due to wear caused by the wrapping. Then I am adding the pendant at the bottom. I am just seeking a shackle that will attach the pendant to the tack..and I also have the opportunity change the shackle on the head of the jib since I am re-making the eye.

I do want to make sure that what I put in place is strong enough. According to what each of the websites, the rating of each is plenty. I just couldn't see what the difference in price is. Quality obviously, but I do not want the sail coming down at the wrong time.

Edited by - cat1951 on 01/23/2008 08:49:31

redviking
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Response Posted - 01/23/2008 : 12:18:37

I still don't understand why anyone uses a snapshackle for that purpose. Just sounds like a "dangerBob" to me.

Sten

DPO Zephyr - '82 C25, FK, SR
SV Lysistrata - C&C 39 - St. Augustine, FL

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 01/23/2008 : 14:07:18

Well it wouldn't make much sense for a furler since you leave it up. However, on hank ons it does make the removal quite easy when taking the sail off the stay. Like I said, I am not set on snap shackles, it's just what is there already. The ones I am looking at now are around $15-$20 per piece and make much more sense for the long run. And they are not snap shackles...just the normal ones that will work in this case.

Edited by - cat1951 on 01/23/2008 14:08:07

Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 01/23/2008 : 14:22:37

You're on the right track. But BTW, for future reference, when a basic piece of hardware is 15% of the equivalent at Defender (who has "good" prices and whom I trust), I wouldn't trust it.

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piseas
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Response Posted - 01/23/2008 : 15:07:38

Check out this site: http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SiteSearchView?catalogId=10001&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&keyword=LOCKING+HALYARD+SHACKLE&Ntt=LOCKING+HALYARD+SHACKLE&N=377+710&storeId=10001&Ntk=Primary+Search&ddkey=SiteSearch
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cat1951
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Response Posted - 01/23/2008 : 15:31:52

Steve - I am headed over to WM this afternoon to buy exactly that type for the halyard eye that I will remake. I purchased a fid set last week and will remake the eye in the line. Then I plan to attach the pendant to the tack using a similar shackle once I have the length that the pendant needs to be. Just waiting for warmer weather. I don't want to try to make the new halyard eye in cold weather. It looks like it will take some limber fingers without gloves.

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