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Tupelo Honey
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Initially Posted - 08/18/2002 :  12:21:05  Show Profile  Visit Tupelo Honey's Homepage
well, i had a terrible experience yesterday; please don't let it happen to you. i went into the head and opened the slide on my porta potty. there had been less than an 1/8" of water/chemical solution lying on top of the disc that separates the two units. i don't know whether it was due to the heat, or something else, but when i opened it, the liquid exploded in my face, covering the walls with blue and blinding me for fifteen minutes. we flushed my eyes for an hour, and my vision gradually returned, but today--24 hours later--i still have pain in my eyes, as though someone punched me.

RULE: don't ever open the slide with the cover up, and please, open it slowly.

regards,
david

Catalina 250WB
Long Island Sound
"Tupelo Honey"
<BR><img src="http://www.stardive.org/tupelo.jpg"<img src

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 08/18/2002 :  12:32:45  Show Profile  Visit Douglas's Homepage
Looks like Tupelo Honey will take on a new meaning. Sorry could not resist. Im afraid I had a good laugh when I read your post. Although it was a terrable thing to go through I must admit I have done the same thing when camping. Heat will cause pressure and so will a weather change. Fluctuations in weather can cause barrometric pressure to rise or fall. Mine was caused when I drove up into the mountains. I have heard stories of fecal material being blown all over the person but I wont give any names out here. A good sailing friend had told me of his wife having a very explosive experiance. Ill bet you hear a few more stories before the week is out. Oh by the way whats that aftershave you have on. It matches your sail covers nicely.

Doug&Ruth
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Tacoma Wa.

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 08/18/2002 :  13:09:40  Show Profile
Hi David,

'Sorry to hear about your ordeal. I'm really glad you 'fessed up ... my boat also has a porta-pottie, and I've never used one before. I had NO idea that pressure could build up in the holding tank ... I hope I never have to go through what you just experienced! I could just barely stand cleaning mine and getting it ready for the boat ... I could never be a plumber.

Anyway, I thought I'd also take this opportunity to let you know that the photo you've inserted in your signature block doesn't come through for the rest of us. Instead of a photo, all we see is:

<BR><img src="http://www.stardive.org/tupelo.jpg"<img src

I tried to email you a couple of weeks ago about your photo, but I couldn't get your email to work. I even looked at your web page, but there was no way to contact you there either. Anyway, you might try "Shutterfly" for storing and displaying your photo ... it's free, and it seems to work pretty well. If you have questions, let me know.

'Hope your eyeballs are back to normal!



Buzz Maring, C-25 SK/SR #68, "Freya"

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 08/18/2002 :  16:47:14  Show Profile
Another suggestion: My Sani Potti instructions say to put the blue fluid in the holding tank, and only fresh water in the upper tank. That way, if you pump a little in (as instructed) before using, it won't have the chemicals in it. Now, an "explosion" may have something else in it, but it'll be "all natural." <img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle>

It might also be a good rule to open and close the gate before pumping in some water and using the potty--to equalize the pressure.

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 08/18/2002 :  21:39:47  Show Profile
On my boat the rule is that whoever uses the porta potty gets to empty it. As a result, everyone goes before we leave the dock, and the porta potty rarely gets used.

Steve Milby "Captiva Wind" C-25 T/FK #2554

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coldducks
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Response Posted - 08/19/2002 :  07:16:38  Show Profile
that is a terrible story. it sounds like you put the chemicals in with the fresh water to flush. otherwise, how would you have blue on top of the gate. is that true? i always put the chemicals into the holding tank. i will be sure to open the gate before opening the top cover from now on. i hope your eyes are ok.

COLDDUCKS
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Tupelo Honey
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Response Posted - 08/19/2002 :  13:25:33  Show Profile  Visit Tupelo Honey's Homepage
first of all, NO ONE poops on my boat.

secondly, it was not the "material" in the holding tank that exploded--it was the excess from the flush tank which does have a little blue stuff in it, yes.

just be careful, jokesters.

Catalina 250WB
Long Island Sound
"Tupelo Honey"
&lt;BR&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.stardive.org/tupelo.jpg"&lt;img src

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 08/19/2002 :  13:43:23  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b2d638b3127cce9fef6974472c0000001010" border=0>

Here's Tupelo's Picture....

David, if you need help getting this to work, send me an email.

Duane

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jellyfish
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Response Posted - 08/19/2002 :  14:44:59  Show Profile
for all the hassles involved I wouldnt trade my marine head for a pottie! it is so much easier to pull up to the dock and pump out. as for not ever letting anyone poop on the boat, all I can say there is you must not take very long trips. I could just see me telling April she had to hold it for 3 days.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>


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dlucier
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Response Posted - 08/19/2002 :  18:57:40  Show Profile
I agree with Jellyfish, a marine head is a whole lot easier to deal with than a porta-potty unless you don't have access to a pumpout facilty. I had a portapotty on my previous boat and that was the worst thing about owning that boat. With the marine head, I simply go to the self-serve pumpout station, stick the hose in the deck opening, and empty the holding tank. The whole process takes just a few minutes. On my old boat, I had to remove the heavy, sloshing, disgusting porta-potty, transport it to a bathroom, empty the contents without hurling <img src=icon_smile_dead.gif border=0 align=middle> , then reinstall the porta-potty in the boat. And when I finished the process, I knew that some time in the future I was going to do it all over again <img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle> . In my book, the marine head wins hands down each and every time! <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>

Don Lucier, North Star
C25 SR/FK

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 08/19/2002 :  22:13:48  Show Profile
1. If you don't use the marine head very much, you'll be trying to figure out why it doesn't work... A porta-potti is simple, replacable, and come on guys--not that disgusting to dump and rinse if you use some good stuff in it. Many of us don't have pumpouts close at hand.

2. T-Honey: One more time--PUT THE BLUE STUFF IN THE BOTTOM HOLDING TANK, NOT IN THE UPPER WATER TANK.

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 08/19/2002 :  23:43:26  Show Profile
A porta-potti is simple(tell that to Dave on Tupelo Honey), replacable, and come on guys--not that disgusting to dump and rinse if you use some good stuff in it(uh...what good stuff...rose petals?).


Dave on Tupelo Honey,

Maybe now you can get an audition for the Blue Man Group!
<img src="http://www.blueman.com/image/tonight/cymbolum_up.jpg" border=0>

Don Lucier, North Star
C25 SR/FK


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coldducks
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Response Posted - 08/19/2002 :  23:55:33  Show Profile
i agree. we have a porta potti...you dont put the blue chemicals in the fresh water part...lets face it, we all have to use it occasionly. if you dont, you dont go out for EXTENDED STAYS. its no big deal. you do what you have to do... but do it right...put the chemicals in the holding tank were they belong, not the fresh water supply...but that said, i am sorry for your eye damage, i hope you have recovered.

COLDDUCKS
FANTASY #409 C250WK

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Steve Raffel
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Response Posted - 08/20/2002 :  15:54:25  Show Profile
Based on this experience, I made up a little sign that reads:
Danger
1. Pull out white slide
2. Raise lid

I took it to Staples and had them laminate it with one side sticky. Now I have it stuck on the lid.

Steve Raffel
C 250 WK #408

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Response Posted - 08/20/2002 :  16:05:03  Show Profile
We've had boats with both holding tanks and porta-potties. Used to be hard to find a pump-out. We just installed a larger porta-pottie on our C-25 because we needed it for extended sails. It's not that bad at all but then my husband and I have changed lots of diapers, too, with no problems! Some of those were explosions, too, come to think of it.


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jellyfish
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Response Posted - 08/21/2002 :  11:08:02  Show Profile
Don, we use a little shot of Aqua-chem after every flush. a friend who sails a 28 Pearson told me about it. it keep everything fresh and you can buy a gal at Wal Mart for about $1. sure beats the crap at the marine stores for triple the price.


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