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kenny m
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Initially Posted - 03/08/2008 :  15:29:43  Show Profile
Well, I was removing one of the windows to re seal it,in my 80 Cat 25' and broke the glass. It's the one closest to the Gally. Any ideas on an easy replacement? I am hoping to buy one that will fit the hole.


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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/08/2008 :  17:55:39  Show Profile
Hey, Kenny! Welcome to the forum...

I had a window made at a local glass shop a few years back. I took in the acrylic/lexan window the previous owner put in to use as a template and they cut a new piece from smoked glass then sent it out for tempering. It is a perfect match to the other windows and I think it cost me around $35.00 or $40.00.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 03/08/2008 :  18:18:19  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
I seem to have recently put a crack into my forward port main cabin window. I was adjusting the turnbuckles to the stays and believe in that process and applying rigging tape, I may have leaned against the window - discovered the crack a few days later. The window does not leak, you can just see the thin line crack in it. I was contemplating changing the window out but also was not sure about getting an exact replacement. My thought was to put a thin bead of silicone sealant along the thin line crack on the inside and outside of the cabin and leave it at that.

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BruceL
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Response Posted - 03/08/2008 :  20:25:42  Show Profile
Kenny, If one off a 1977 will fit tell me. I have one that I'm just about done scrapping out

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kenny m
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Response Posted - 03/09/2008 :  14:31:35  Show Profile
THanks for the responses.

Bruce: I am not sure if one will fit or not. THis is my problem. I need to find a perfect fit.

Does Catalina sell these? I guess the other possible solution is to take the frame to a glass shop to put a new one in, getting it tempered, of course.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 03/11/2008 :  05:38:35  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
UPDATE !!

Catalina Yachts can provide it !!

I decided to send them an EMail yesterday (early morning) on 2 questions: One was on the window and the other on the manual bilge pump. I received a reply about 2-3 hours later from their Engineering Dept (Robert Butler had initially seen the EMail, assigned a replacement window cost, then forwarded the EMail to their Engrg Dept to get me a part nunber regarding the Whale manual bilge pump for my '89 and then for Engrg to respond directly which they did by forwarding the EMail thread w/responses.)

I now have been corresponding with their Engineering Dept and am ready to send them a full sized pattern of my port side forward main cabin Window. Their original EMail indicated a cost of $37.37 but I now need to find out if there is a shipping charge and how they want the payment before I seal up my envelope to forward my pattern. I will probably hear back from them today - They have been very responsive !

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glivs
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Response Posted - 03/11/2008 :  07:00:50  Show Profile
Larry,
When you get a part no. for the bilge pump service kit, will you please post to a new thread. Thanks.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 03/11/2008 :  07:40:11  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
Gerry - I will post to a new thread or...at least find the one that we had a discussion on bilge pumps recently and post to that one. What I know right now is that ...forget who said it but WM has a parts kit and so i want to go to WM and see if the packaging indicates what model and the years it covers as far as it's application. catalina indicated that for my '89, the Whale Model/part No is WPBP9013. Whale currently has a model with the number BP-9013...so it may be same footprint and parts. Awaiting Whale response and then I will post info.

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kenny m
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Response Posted - 03/11/2008 :  09:54:01  Show Profile
Robert wrote me that he could not supply me with a window. I guess my boat is too old.


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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 03/11/2008 :  11:57:25  Show Profile
I guess I'm an old grump. Its a window in your house and maybe on a power boat. For sailors it is a portlight

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 03/11/2008 :  12:28:50  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
Dave -- Awww...don't be a grump. Rcmd check and see what catalina calls it and then let's all be instructed in the proper term. But be prepared to start calling it a window ...


Dave...I just checked. The boat you own and love, the mfr calls those things...."Windows". maybe the ones that open up, they call ports. Someone else can research that....I have to go to a meeting on ...much larger boats.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 03/11/2008 :  20:02:32  Show Profile
I say it, of course, tongue in cheek. But really, traditional terminology lets every know they are talking about the same thing. Advertising writers, in a social sanitizing move, call the main living area the salon, but that doesn't mean it isn't really a traditional saloon. Port holes are closed with hinged portlights; we have fixed portlights, regardless of what copywriters call them. Ports and portlights, halyards and sheets, shrouds and stays, and many other names help us communicate what "that thingy sticking out over there" is. Refer to the cavitation thread.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 03/11/2008 :  22:21:18  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
Dave - Are port holes, port lights perhaps round and that is what makes the distinction ?

Kenny, I was thinking about why Catalina Yachts would say they can replace my window but not yours. My thought is that perhaps your windows have an aluminum frame ? If so, that may explain it because Catalina probably did not make those windows or if they did, they probably have not made it that way in a long time. It is also possible that another mfr supplied them.

My windows/ports have no aluminum frame - The Lexan/Acrylic fits flush into the opening with Sealant, gasketing and screws on the perimeter of the Lexan. Screws

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 03/11/2008 :  22:49:07  Show Profile
Portholes are holes, portlights let in light, regardless of shape. Maybe Catalina thinks Kenny has portlights and they only stock windows.

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kenny m
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Response Posted - 03/12/2008 :  20:45:06  Show Profile
Robert wrote that they don't carry those windows and the company is gone. They probably subbed those widows (portholes) to a co that has closed since then.
Well, it's at a glass co now to get tempered glass put in. Should take about two weeks. Sheesh.


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