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Oksky
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Initially Posted - 03/26/2008 :  14:42:34  Show Profile
Just wanted to introduce myself here. I just joined the forum but have read and read and read the topics for awhile now as I was looking for my first sailboat. Thanks to all the information I got from here I finally found the right one and picked it up last Friday in Phoenix. I'm now the proud owner of a 1990 wing keel standard rig:-) Now comes the work. The gentleman I purchased it from got out of the hospital on Thursday and couldn't move so,,,,,, now I have to figure out how to raise the mast (shouldn't be a problem) and run the lines, (big problem) hahahaha. What do I know about sailing? How does not much sound. I took a basic cruising course for a week last year and that's it. It's been, and will be, a great adventure.

Mike Payne
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 03/26/2008 :  15:05:23  Show Profile
Welcome! You'll get a lot of help here. That was a long way to go for a boat! Spend some time looking at photos at some of the members websites and they will give you a lot of ideas about the running rigging.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/26/2008 :  15:22:14  Show Profile
Welcome aboard!
To figure out the lines, etc., start logically. The steel cables hold up the mast. The main and jib halliards are rope lines that run up the mast. There's a boom vang, which is a block and tackle affair, one end of which is attached to the base of the mast and the other end to the boom. There's a mainsheet, which is also a block and tackle affair. One end is attached to the end of the boom, and the other end is attached to the mainsheet traveler, which is on the transom. There's probably a topping lift, a mainsail downhaul, and a mainsail cunningham. Then there are the reefing lines. Figure them out one-at-a-time. If you get stuck on one, then check with us, and we should be able to help you with it.

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dreddick
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Response Posted - 03/26/2008 :  15:35:19  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Oksky</i>
<br />I'm now the proud owner of a 1990 wing keel standard rig:-) <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Welcome and nice find . Did you get a manual with the boat? If not you can download one from this site - might answer some of your questions.


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Ben
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Response Posted - 03/26/2008 :  15:39:42  Show Profile
Welcome to the group, Oksky,

As far as raising the mast, without a device that would give you some leverage and a mechanical advantage (such as an A-frame, which I use), you will probably need a group of friends to help raise the mast.

When I get ready to raise my mast, I bolt the base of the mast into the mast boot (or tabernacle, not sure what it's called), and the top half of the mast sticks out over the stern of the boat. Some people have the mast lying forward and raise it from front to back, but I've never done that so can't give an opinion on that. Regardless, when you position the base of the mast to be bolted in to the mast boot, be careful it doesn't swing up, because most of the mast will be hanging off the back of the boat or the front of the boat, depending on which route you use, and the end to be bolted will want to swing up and hit you in the face. Ask me how i know this.

Like I said, I use an A-frame system. If you do a search on this website you'll find much discussion about it. One thing to be cautious of, if you do an A-frame system, make sure the material you use is strong enough to stand up to the pressure being exerted on it as you raise the mast.

A dry-dock neighbor of mine was raising his mast in this manner on a Catalina 22, and I think he was using PVC tubing, and not a very large diameter tubing at that. The starboard leg started bending crazily when the mast was about half way up. Scared the bejeeberz out of me, because the mast was veering towards my boat.

One more word of caution, when I raise my mast, since I raise from back to forward, the only standing rigging I have disconnected are the forward lowers and the forestay. All the rest stay connected but are loosened.

Have fun! Sounds like you got a peach of a boat!

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Oksky
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Response Posted - 03/26/2008 :  16:26:55  Show Profile
Yep, a guy will go anywhere for the right reason. It was a trip to remember. 5800 kilometers in four days, one trailer tire blow out in the middle of the desert, 4 hours sitting in a snow shed in the mountains because they decided to close the highway when I was half way to the top. Yep, it was fun for sure. Now a popular question I have been asked is "why would you buy a sailboat in the middle of the desert", hahahaha. As for raising the mast, I have a drawing and some pipes and poles and blocks and lines and all kinds of shiny stuff to raise it with. I'm sure my not quite rocket scientist brain will evenually figure it out. I have been looking at pictures all ready. It's amazing how many friends a guy has when he pulls up with a new boat. Now if I can only get them to buy the beer for allowing them to help me:-) Thanks for all your tips.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 03/26/2008 :  18:13:29  Show Profile
Welcome to the group.

Do you have a slip?
We sailed out of the Kelowna Yacht Club for a week last summer - reciprocal privledges via Power & Sail Squadron.
Okanagan is a great place to sail...and KYC is a terrific place to start from.
Do you have pictures?


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Oksky
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Response Posted - 03/26/2008 :  19:09:25  Show Profile
Unfortunately no slip. It used to be a two year wait for one here. Now they are closing two marinas and you can't beg borrow or steal a slip. Right now there is a battle going on about mooring on a ball. Boaters say yes, people in their million dollar homes say no. The KYC is a great place, with nice people for sure. Our eventual plans are to move up and go cruising so we can trailer to Vancouver in 4 hours for some open water experience.

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JohnP
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Response Posted - 03/26/2008 :  21:00:01  Show Profile
Welcome Oksky,

The Okanagan is a beautiful lake. I spent a summer years ago on Slocan Lake a few valleys to the east. I bet you'll have a blast on your new boat. Hopefully it won't need any major repairs.

Fair winds!

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 03/26/2008 :  21:46:46  Show Profile
Congratulations and welcome to the forum! I encourage you to join the Catalina25/250/Capri25 Association. Your C25 is a fine boat and you'll have lots of fun with it. Be sure to ask any questions here on the forum.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/26/2008 :  21:53:48  Show Profile
Welcome aboard, Mike! I look forward to hearng all about your new boat.

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Oksky
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Response Posted - 03/26/2008 :  22:48:33  Show Profile
[code]Wow, thanks for all the welcomes. I actually joined the association a while back when I had decided a Catalina 25 was the best boat for me but just sat on the sidelines and learned from the forums. I find it amazing the amount of knowledge everyone has as a group here. The other is the courtesy shown to everyone even though opinions can vary greatly.
So I have tried to link a picture of my boat here. Lets see what happens. The real cool thing is the boat looks like it was painted to match my tow rig, lol. When I saw it for the first time I almost fell over.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 03/26/2008 :  23:23:32  Show Profile
Is that a Ford F350 Dually? You're my new best friend!

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Oksky
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Response Posted - 03/27/2008 :  00:05:00  Show Profile
Hahahahaha. Don't forget the diesel 4x4. Ya think I even noticed the boat behind it?????

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 03/27/2008 :  07:39:36  Show Profile
Fine boat, right tow... You're off to a great start! Now we just have to help you get that stick up! (Sorry, I'm on the wrong coast in the wrong country. )

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JohnP
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Response Posted - 03/27/2008 :  08:05:45  Show Profile
If you don't have a slip, how will you get out to your boat?

Is this what you'll do? I found these photos on your website.

So you think you don't need a dinghy?

Incredible!!!

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 03/27/2008 :  08:10:56  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
Welcome Oksky,
That's a fine looking boat you've got there! Looks like you have a great lake to sail her on too. Enjoy!

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Oksky
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Response Posted - 03/27/2008 :  13:17:50  Show Profile
Why spend the cash on something I don't need. I already have a parachute or two kicking around ;-) I'll teach you to jump out of an airplane if you teach me how to rig my boat, hahahaha.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 03/27/2008 :  16:01:32  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Oksky</i>
<br />Why spend the cash on something I don't need. I already have a parachute or two kicking around ;-) I'll teach you to jump out of an airplane if you teach me how to rig my boat, hahahaha.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">You mean a <b><u><i>perfectly good </i> </u> </b> airplane?

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 03/27/2008 :  16:11:13  Show Profile
I'm sending you an email regarding my possible trip to Kelowna next week.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 03/27/2008 :  16:57:17  Show Profile
Welcome to the forum and to the Association, Oksky. Looks like a beautiful rig and I know that you'll have a great time with it. As you've already found out, the forum offers a wealth of info for someone new to the sport and to C-25's. I know it has been a terrific help to me.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 03/27/2008 :  17:41:14  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
Welcome to the Forum !

I guess until you find a slip - you could:

1) Work on some maintenance/cleanups and possibly an improvement or two.

2) Tow your boat around and go camping in it.

3) Invite friends over to go onboard, pass out the drinks, turn on some music and have a landlubber party.

4) You could tow it down to the water's edge, hoist the sails and have someone take some "action" snapshots - Then use it for PC Desktop Background.

5) Practice with the safety gear - Don the PFD, toot the horn and practice throws with the life ring.

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