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What motor to use 20 or new 25 inch shaft

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Tim Baur
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Initially Posted - 04/30/2008 : 22:50:44

I'm replacing the old Evinrude 9.9 that came with the boat and I'm not sure what to buy.
I see some pretty good prices at the association advertiser. What comments does anyone have the Nissan,Tohatsu,mercury or Yamaha. I thinking the 25 inch shaft would handle Lake Erie with the short wave action and pitching. I'm open for any and all thoughts. The evinrude has been a solid source for the last 10 years but starting to develop a few oil leaks.
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Tim

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 04/30/2008 : 23:00:51

check for previous threads on this topic - use the search function or go the general forum and look in Honda VS Yamaha outboards.
Lots of info and opinions.

IMHO - get the longest shaft you can. Its the one thing we can all agree on here. 27" is XL, and it is best suited for our boats.

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Tim Baur
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Response Posted - 05/01/2008 : 07:38:49

Thanks for the info, I searched the Forum and found the thread. Very interesting and helpful. Thanks for all the people that give good honest opinions....I love this country, Sailors are the best....

I feel alot better spending my retirement money now, Thanks

Tim

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tinob
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Response Posted - 05/01/2008 : 08:03:18

Good morning Tim,

Welcome to the Forum.

I ran a c25 with a Johnson Xlong shaft since 1992 on the Great South Bay of New York's Long Island. In 2005 it succumbed to an admixture of MTBE and Ethanol. I bought a Nissan/Tohatsu 27" shaft with electric start and alternator form Online Outboards and the motor has performed flawlessly since. Several things are outstanding over the Johnson two stroke, namely quiet operation, fuel economy, price, and weight.

Several of our forum members are using them with good results.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT, # 3936, Patchogue, N.Y.

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 05/01/2008 : 08:26:34

BTW, those 27" extra-long shafts are generally listed as 25". (These days the manufacturers tend to list the "recommended transom height" for planing hulls instead of the traditional clamp-to-plate measurement.) All we care about is getting the prop as deep as practical.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 05/01/2008 : 10:58:46

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">....I love this country, Sailors are the best<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Canada, the 51st State, America's Hat.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 05/01/2008 : 12:03:23

Tim, I see you're in Huron. I'm slipped in Sandusky Bay. Where will you keep your boat?

BTW, I've popped my Extra-long Tohatsu shaft out of the water in the Lake Erie chop at the entrance to the bay. The longer the better.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 05/01/2008 : 16:06:55

John, you just need one of those Hondas--the extra weight helps keep 'er down!

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 05/01/2008 : 22:31:34

I've also got the Nisan 25-27" shaft, elec. start and love it. Tinob, do you have any trouble keeping the shaft down in reverse?

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tinob
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Response Posted - 05/02/2008 : 09:29:33

I've never had a problem with the motor coming out of the water in reverse. I do remember reading about curing the problem in the owners manual. Should you have this problem that's the place to look.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT, # 3936, Patchogue, N.Y.

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Tim Baur
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Response Posted - 05/04/2008 : 11:10:22

Thanks again for all the info....I will let y'all know how the long shaft form Onlineoutboards works out.

My apologies to my Canadian neighbor, Stampede......Love your country too! Looking forward to sharing the islands (Pelee) this summer.

Tim

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Tim Baur
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Response Posted - 01/19/2009 : 15:02:46

www.onlineoutboard.com br / The propeller pitch is 7.5 quot standard . br / I ran the 08 season and have about 40 hours on it. The few times I was out in really heavy waves it didn apos t pop out. Overall it apos s been a good motor quiet and fuel minded. I like the four stroke as I apos m always topping up the 6gal tank before any expected long sailing days as with Lake Erie you can get caught up in bad weather and rather than bet the rigging I apos ll slow motor back. br / I apos m wondering now if a prop change or one of the Thruster shields would improve performance. br / I apos m at Harbor North in Huron br / Thanks for input that helped me make a pretty good choice." border="0">

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 01/19/2009 : 17:46:56

I opted for a Mercury Bigfoot at a very good price, but it WM hadn't dropped the price so much, it would have been a Tohatsu pushing me. I love my combined throttle/shift. BTW, the prop comes out briefly in steep 4 - 5 footers. My dock neighbor in Pensacola Beach last year had a smaller Tohatsu that was so old nearly all the paint had flaked off, but it still started with one pull.

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Windhover
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Response Posted - 01/20/2009 : 07:06:44

The PO had outfitted our boat with a Honda 9.9 XL shaft and good thing, as prop will occasional come out of the water in 4-5 foot waves on Lake Ontario. The owners manual notes there is an over rev limiter, however the prop's never been out long enough to hear a drop in RPM. With a crew of 5 kids, the honda weight isn't an issue... just move one or two forward and we're covered!

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/20/2009 : 15:26:33

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Tim Baur
 I'm wondering now if a prop change or one of the Thruster shields would improve performance.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Tim,

What is it about the performance that you think needs improving?

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Even Chance
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Response Posted - 01/21/2009 : 05:50:52

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dave5041
 I opted for a Mercury Bigfoot at a very good price, but it WM hadn't dropped the price so much, it would have been a Tohatsu pushing me. I love my combined throttle/shift. BTW, the prop comes out briefly in steep 4 - 5 footers. My dock neighbor in Pensacola Beach last year had a smaller Tohatsu that was so old nearly all the paint had flaked off, but it still started with one pull.
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Dave, you CAN eat your cake and have it, too. The Mercury is a Tohatsu.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 01/22/2009 : 00:23:20

The Merc is built by Tohatsu and uses the Tohatsu powerhead, but everything below that on the Bigfoot is built to different specs. It has bigger shafts, gears, and bearings and it pushes a 4 blade 10" prop for more thrust at low speeds for displacement boats. Unfortunately, all of that also makes it significantly heavier. The standard Merc 9.9 is a Tohatsu with Merc's throttle/shift and new badges.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 01/23/2009 : 22:37:20

I wonder if a Tohatsu/Nissan could be retrofitted with a Merc throttle/shifter?

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