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filmsomething
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Initially Posted - 05/11/2008 : 01:16:20

So I launched my 83' 25 today. All went well with rasing the mast and rigging everything. I wasn't sure about how to connect the lower end of my Jib to the furler, I ended up just lashing it on a cleat but it looks like it hangs down further then it should. It looks to be an older sail which might have been converted to work with the furler and just wasn't done real well. Also the jib sheets were very oversized, They must have been close to 3/4" rope. What size is recomended, I thought that 1/2" should be plenty and still have something to grab ahold of.

Another thing, when I was lowering the keel it sounded like water was splashing in the tube that the cable goes through, is this normal? I checked the bilge and everything around it but it was dry.

83' SK/SR

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filmsomething
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Response Posted - 05/11/2008 : 01:22:20

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 05/11/2008 : 09:15:57

Jon,

Welcome to the Forum. I don't have a swing keel so I cannot answer your SK question. In regards to the furler, if you have a CDI furler, then perhaps the below link to the instruction manual may help for sail attachment:

http://www.texassailor.com/cdi8.pdf

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 05/11/2008 : 10:24:19

From what I've read here, that water splashing noise in the tube isn't unusual. I think some folks stick a sponge or something in the top to prevent sloshing around. Somebody with a swinger will give you the definitive answer soon.

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quilombo
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Response Posted - 05/11/2008 : 11:03:17

mine makies that noise to, you can put some foam in there like John mentioned,
good luck with the boat,
I noticed you lauched her with a drive in ramp,
how much water did you need to lower her into the ramp ,4 ft??

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 05/11/2008 : 13:41:43

3/8" jib sheets are more than enough for the C25. My C&C 35 doesn't even have 1/2" jib sheets. When it comes to running rigging, bigger is not better. Bigger sheets are heavier, and don't work as well in light air, and bigger lines don't run through the blocks or fit the cleats as well.

If you don't stuff a sponge or similar object in the tube of the swinger, a spout of water will occasionally erupt from the tube when you rev the motor hard in reverse.

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Response Posted - 05/11/2008 : 14:52:01

Looks from here like a CDI furler... I didn't have a CDI, but most furlers use a small shackle from the sail to the drum. It may have been misplaced. Larry's manual should take care of you.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/11/2008 : 19:18:12

I helped a guy once with a CDI furler and I think you are correct. The tack of the sail is somehow lashed/tied off to the top of the furler unit.

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Kip C
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Response Posted - 05/11/2008 : 21:25:07

Hi Jon,
Is the furler halyard tied to the sail, no shackle? Youl'll get the most hoist that way and make sure it is hoisted all the way.

I see that not only are you also from Cincinnati, but that from the picture, your also at Brookville Lake. If you need anything, feel free to contact me. I'm in slip 31 at Hanna Creek normally. Unfortunately, I'm in the parking lot at this time.

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millermg
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Response Posted - 05/11/2008 : 21:32:52

the cleat on the top of the drum is actually for your halyard. On the opposite side of the cleat is an eye hole, the tack is simply lashed to it, tensioned, and tied off. I just run line through both eyes, tie a bowline on one end, tension, and a couple half-hitches do the trick. PS, nice looking '83!

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 05/11/2008 : 21:58:53

for the keel cable tube, I use duct tape.
A sponge works well too.

Be careful if you use a sponge or a rag, if you forget about it and crank the keel up, the item might ride up the cable and get caught in your winch. Guess how I know this

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sweetcraft
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Response Posted - 05/11/2008 : 22:09:53

After I did the sponge around the winch I now use a towel which I hold, don't touch the cable. The keel swinging down out of the pocket lets water in to displace the air which tries to bobble up through the hose with water and any other trash in the pocket. Putting the engine in full reverse also pushes water up through the hose. I still don't have furler.

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Response Posted - 05/12/2008 : 11:51:00

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Kip C
 I see that not only are you also from Cincinnati, but that from the picture, your also at Brookville Lake. If you need anything, feel free to contact me. I'm in slip 31 at Hanna Creek normally, unfortunately, in the parking at this time. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Good eye, Kip! I didn't notice that, because the last time I was there, the white fence wasn't there. They must have erected it to keep the power boaters from encroaching on the sailors' turf. What a nice place to sail, and nice folks. I miss it.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 05/12/2008 : 12:30:28

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I still don't have furler<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

That puts you in good company.

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filmsomething
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Response Posted - 05/12/2008 : 17:52:21

OLarry- thank you for that PDF. that is exactly what I needed.

Kip- I was unlucky (again) and was not able to get a slip so I am stuck in the fairfield marina on a mooring. What sail number is yours so I can look for it next time I'm out?

And I'm glad to hear that the splashing noise is normal. I would hate to come back to see no L26 Bouy

thanks,
Jon

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Kip C
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Response Posted - 05/12/2008 : 18:36:05

Our boat name is Quietude and hull #6021. There are pluses and minuses of both the dock and the bouy. We were only on the mooring for 1 year. We've been at Hanna Creek for 4 or 5 years. I can still hear my then 5 year old telling the mooring service "Sailboat Quietude, bouy I-9, portside!"

Edited by - Kip C on 05/12/2008 18:36:48

edr_bug
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Response Posted - 05/17/2008 : 13:14:17

Hi Jon,
It's good to hear you got her in the water! Are you using the white with red fleck genoa sheets (like the ones in the following pictures)? If so, those are 3/8" Sta-Set.

You should've seen the ones that were on it when I bought it--they WERE huge. Here's a couple of big pics from our last sail on that boat:

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edr_bug
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Response Posted - 05/17/2008 : 13:18:23

Jon, did you get the motor figured out? What did you find was wrong?
Ed

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