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tinob
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Initially Posted - 05/12/2008 :  10:51:16  Show Profile
My boat is going in on the fifteenth and I'm getting SSSOOOooooo antsy. Every thing is GO, all preps performed, and now something is BUGGING me. A question has popped up that seems unanswerable, perhaps has no answer.

Anthropologists have discovered that both Neanderthals and Cro-Magnon humans had voice boxes, the Cro-Mangnon's being slightly larger and deeper set in the body than the other. There is speculation that they had rudimental speach and I'm wondering what the first human word was? Perhaps...BBbbaaooodddtt...followed by TTtttaaacccckkk!!!

SORRY.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT, #3936, Patchogue, N.Y.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT

Val Bisagni]

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Renzo
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Response Posted - 05/12/2008 :  11:04:54  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by tinob</i>
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SORRY.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT, #3936, Patchogue, N.Y.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT
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As well you should be! Every one knows the first word was SSSSSttaaaabbbooard

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 05/12/2008 :  11:37:02  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
We are splashing on the 15th as well - betcha we're wet before you are!

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 05/12/2008 :  11:38:09  Show Profile
Having done a lot of my own anthopological sociological research, I can tell you with confidence, that the first word was YES, and the second was DEAR.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 05/12/2008 :  13:59:28  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
My dad took me aside when I was a youngster to explain how relationships work. He told me that it was all about compromises. She tells you what to do, and you compromise by doing it.

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Response Posted - 05/12/2008 :  18:30:20  Show Profile  Visit ddlyle's Homepage
I think either (equivelant of) "food" or "no!"

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tinob
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Response Posted - 05/14/2008 :  13:37:40  Show Profile
Mark your time well Chris, as will I, should we consider the exact moment that any part of our boats touches water, or when she is free of the lift's constraints. The latter sounds more reasonable to me, though the former may appeal to some. What say you?

Val on the hard DAGNABIT, # 3936, Patchogue, N.Y.

Duane, it was a 1930 Austen five window coupe advertised in Sweden and the name appearing above the little coupe was the Domain Name of the person selling it. I thought it resembled the Austen but thought that it was perhaps a French knock off it. In any event it was a thing of beauty, especially in YELLOW. Unfortunately the only Austens on the internet are dark green or black. Nice, but the same.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT, #3936, Patchogue, N.Y.

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Response Posted - 05/14/2008 :  13:53:32  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by tinob</i>
<br />Mark your time well Chris, as will I, should we consider the exact moment that any part of our boats touches water, or when she is free of the lift's constraints. The latter sounds more reasonable to me, though the former may appeal to some. What say you?
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I think I have you beat...

[url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17688"]See Here...[/url]

I offer a third time, just in case - how about when she is tied off at a dock or mooring.

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tinob
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Response Posted - 05/15/2008 :  11:33:18  Show Profile
Don't get crafty with me son . I hit the water at 10:22 A.M. EST. And all went well, especially that little Nissan. So who wins and what. Just bragging rights I suppose.

Val on Calista # 3936, Patchogue, N.Y/

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 05/15/2008 :  12:55:54  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
You win the chance to crew my boat. All didn't went well here.

Our guy showed up last night and hauled us to the marina. I asked if he thought it was wise to not put a bar under the keel on the trailer. He wondered why he'd bother. I tell him about the Catalina Smile, he says he's never heard of that before and its a load of crap.

The boat goes to the marina. He puts it down. I get him to raise it up and I put another block under the front of the keel. He puts it down again, takes his money, drives off.

I go to the service bay at the marina and no one is there. Sales desk is closed too. Go to front gate and ask who is doing launches tonight. There are no launches tonight. I go home, scratching my head.

This morning I go back to the marina for the 08:30 launch I had originally scheduled. The guy looks at me funny. That was launched yesterday afternoon. It got here a day early. Huh?!?

I politely tell him that no, it is very much sitting on blocks in the parking lot, and I would like to get it in the water and get back to the office. He walks over and looks at the boat (didn't he believe me?) and says he can launch it sometime next week, or whenever. I point out to him that I am here now. I have taken the morning off work, my wife has taken a day off work, and a friend has taken a day off to come and help. I am starting to get antsy.

He says he'll fit it in sometime in the morning between other jobs. I should just hang out in the meantime.

Being that I don't have much choice, and I'd like to get some of the jobs I didn't get done last night put to bed, I agree and go to puttering while I wait. Around 10:00 the crane lifts the boat. I paint the bottom of the keel and where the cradle pads were. The crane operator goes on break. I wait.

Eventually the guy comes back, and puts the boat down light as a feather into the lagoon. I tie it off and check the thru-hulls and bilge. No leaks. We tie up and he removes the slings.

I start the engine. Nothing.
Try again, nothing.
Pull pull pull. Nothing

Push button push button push button. Nothing.

Replace gas line, clean spark plug. Nothing

Nothing nothing nothing.

Shoulder is getting sore. New baby is crying. Daughter is talking about how great it is missing school for this. Wife is making that look like "this is <b>SO Much</b> YOUR problem".

Eventually the engine sputters, then dies.

After having to explain to my 10 year old that yes sometimes Dad does swear when things go wrong, I figure it out. The outboard's remote control is running the transmission and the throttle simultaneously. I disconnect the gear cable, and run the outboard with the throttle alone on the remote. It works (kind-of) I am hanging over the back of the boat pushing and pulling one cable, and working the remote with my other arm stretched way up in the cockpit.

I run to the harbour master's office to get a slip. "We launched that boat yesterday. Don't you like that slip? I'm not just moving you for nothing." I get to explain the driver's screw-up again. The only slip available is on the main channel in "Millionaire's Alley" I take it. The negotiation process with this guy takes about an hour.

We did finally get the boat tied off - well sort of. The dock's cleats aren't really firmly attached, so we are tied to whatever we could find that looked sturdy. I hope its still there when I go back tonight. We are in the shadows of a couple of 40 ft flybridge stinkpots.

They make our little boat look even better.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 05/15/2008 :  13:58:08  Show Profile
Imagine the surprise of the guy whose boat <i>was</i> launched "yesterday"... and who probably hadn't painted his bottom or shined his topsides yet... Too bad--there she is. That yard had better start paying a little more attention to the boats it's slinging around.

For you, all's well--the season has started! (I was in three weeks ago yesterday. )

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/15/2008 :  15:26:56  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Prospector</i>
<br />Around 10:00 the crane lifts the boat. I paint the bottom of the keel and where the cradle pads were. The crane operator goes on break. I wait.

Eventually the guy comes back, and puts the boat down light as a feather into the lagoon.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

If the crane operator took more than 22 minutes for his break, I think that makes Val the winner at 10:22am.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 05/15/2008 :  15:54:59  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dlucier</i>
If the crane operator took more than 22 minutes for his break, I think that makes Val the winner at 10:22am.
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Its OK I already conceded defeat. Val can come crew my boat. We have an overnight race coming up...

Besides I can't debate this any longer. I'm heading up to the boat for the weekend. (You don't know how good that feels to say)

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 05/15/2008 :  15:56:56  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Dave Bristle</i>
I was in three weeks ago yesterday. )
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I was busy helping my wife have a baby three weeks ago... (go ahead and trump that!)

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tinob
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Response Posted - 05/15/2008 :  19:36:44  Show Profile
Now that's an excuse that holds watet with me, Chris, what's rhe little ones name?

Val on Calista, # 3936. Patchogue, N.Y.

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tinob
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Response Posted - 05/15/2008 :  19:42:02  Show Profile
WATET AS IN WATER

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 05/15/2008 :  20:17:07  Show Profile
I CONCEDE, Chris! (For old farts like me, the only thing better than splash-date would be the birth of a grandchild, and I'll have to wait a while...) Congrats! First one? Hope all is going great!

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 05/16/2008 :  14:46:08  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
Thanks for the congrats - and tinob - SWMBO and I were going the photos and video of our splash last night, and it turns out the crane dropped us in just after 10:00. I forget the exact time now, but if we go by when the boat was in the water, I won by bout 10 minutes. If we go by when the boat was tied off safe and sound, then its you, I'm sure. Let's call it a draw.

Today we motorsailed from the stinkpot marina where we launched, across to our slip.

All went without incident, which I am thankful for. It looks like we are officially boaters. Oh, and I have more parts to buy.

The Main has no shackle to attach the outhaul with, and there is a nut and bolt that holds the tack to the boom. I'm not sure whether that is standard fare.

We also need a snap shackle to attach the sheets to the clew of the foresail. and a third shackle (or two) to attach the vang with. But at least she was on the water, and handled without incident.

Our little guy is James, he is loads of fun. Especially around 2 or 3 AM. My wife and I have been together about 5 years, married 10 months. He is our first together, but I have raised my daughter from a previous marriage.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 05/16/2008 :  15:08:08  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Prospector</i>
<br />We also need a snap shackle to attach the sheets to the clew of the foresail. and a third shackle (or two) to attach the vang with. But at least she was on the water, and handled without incident.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Just use a cow hitch. It's lighter. Double your sheet line and pass the looped end through the clew then, pass the line thru the loop on the other side. Saves the weight and expense of a shackle. Not to mention the shackle potentially beating up the gelcoat. Save the money for diapers.

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