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redviking
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Initially Posted - 05/12/2008 :  07:51:24  Show Profile
SV Lysistrata finally escaped the vortex that is Florida and proceeded offshore to Charleston SC. Our next weather window north is Tuesday, so in the meantime we anchored out and waited for a couple of storms to pass. We did see a Tornado warning and 44 knots of wind on the anemometer...

Anyhow, a couple of days before the storm I noticed one of the derelicts - read homeless boaters - move two of the three sailboats he has from all hanging on one hook to another hook somewhat near Lysistrata. Mind you, this guy has a small runabout and two skiffs as well and probably decided not to have the whole fleet tied to just one line. Better to divide the load. Anyhow, his two small sailboats were about 30 footers with outboard engine mounts. Yes, outboard engine mounts.

You see, if you take the diesel engine out and remove all of the sails, you now have a barge and the Coast Guard and/or nobody can make you move it - it's engine less and the regs allow for these types of vessels to be anchored nearly forever as long as they do not pose a hazard to navigation. Hence the outboard motor mounts. When these guys do drag and need to move back where they were, they simply take the motor off of the dinghy and put it on the sailboat and drive the "barge" back where it was...

OK - back to SeaTow... During the night at about 03:00, I was sicker than a dog, i.e. I'm going to have to get better before I can die sick. Food poisoning from a Soul Foodie "Poor Boy" fried oyster sandwich we think... Anyhow, my wife is on anchor watch now as I can't and it starts blowing snot and there is lightning all over. Boats are dragging all over the place and my wife keeps updating me only to hear stuff like, "Babe, I just don't care" and "you might have to get the coasties to help you get my ass off of this boat", etc...

Anchor alarm trips a couple of times, but I did manage to look around and confirm that we were still in our same spot. Double checked our position on the GPS with that recorded before the storm and determined that we were only about 25 feet from where we started.

At 05:30 the most awful screeching noise emanated from our bow... The two 30 footer derelicts were on our bow! Pouring rain, lightning, and a near death food poisoning experience were not going to stop my from doing something. Put foulies on, started engine, grabbed walkie talkies for wife and I to communicate and proceeded to go up top. The outboard engine mount on this derelict has managed to swing under my chain and wrap itself around the motor mount - essentially locking the two boats together.

Thankfully the storm passed and the seas in the harbor settled out some. Nonetheless, we started to try and work this one out. I got a big snubber and a boat hook and tried to get a line on the chain such that i could transfer the tension and then release more chain and unwrap the chain from the engine mount. Easier said than done.

Climbed into the dink and tried from the water. Again, easier said than done while bouncing around a bit. Wife suggests we call SeaTow for assistance and I reluctantly accept defeat. "SeaTow - Your Road Service at Sea" is the most frustrating folks to ever have to call at 06:00. They did not answer 16. The main number repeatedly requested the same info and would not patch us to the local guys until confirming how much lint was in my belly button. Finally, the Charleston SeaTow Captain is on the phone.

"I don't understand how your anchor chain is wrapped around another boats motor mount." OK, I try to explain how derelicts remove engines, blah, blah, blah. "What you need to do is cut your anchor free, attach a float to it and go to the mega dock and retrieve it from your dinghy." (There is this MASSIVE marina across from the anchorage in Charleston - which was and is fully booked).

Uh, SeaTow dude, I have 250 feet of heavy 3/8ths chain attached to a 35lb. CQR, how in the heck will I pull that in from the dink. Also, this suggestion will still leave the anchor chain attached to the derelicts boat, not a good idea for multiple reasons.

SeaTow dude continues to drone on while my blood pressure finishes wiping out any traces of food poisoning left in my body. Praise SeaTow for the holy laying on of the BS... Anyhow, I finally said to the guy - "OK, let's be clear - If you are not going to come out and render assistance - please advise now such that I can make alternative arrangements to secure my vessel. I just can't chat with you anymore."

The response was chilling. "Sir, please call us if you are going down or if your engine stops." I handed the phone to my wife who continued to try and explain that while we were in no immediate danger, that we were causing some damage to our vessel and that while the assistance required would be minimal, that in her opinion we would all be much safer with some assistance from the water. SeaTow Dude confirmed with her that we had a dinghy and that it was operational. Nevermind the fact that we had already deployed the dink in an attempt at self rescue....

Anyhow, we had to do something and SeaTow Dude was just wasting time. "Captain, calm down, these situations can be stressful I know. But if you can just relax and take some deep breaths, make some tai tea, and do some yoga, you too can qualify to be a SeaTow captain/FRANCHISE OWNER." My wife hung up on him and we went back to finding a solution. Mind you my vessel was beating the heck out of this boats stern rail and was really trying to pull that motor mount off.

My wife was on the bow of our boat and I proceeded in the dink to board the derelict vessel with a boat hook and a snubber. I climbed onto this boat trying not to injure myself on the sharp edges from previous encounters, rigged the snubber to the chain and had my wife let some more out. Got it unwrapped and we were free. Only problem was that now the mother ship and the dink were drifting away and I was on the derelict!!!

Arrrgghhh!!! Still had the snubber attached, so I instructed my wife to hit the windlass and bring our vessel back into the danger zone while I used the boat hook to snag the dingy line... OK, so I made one error in judgement by not attaching the dink to the vessel I was boarding.... Got back on the dink, reboarded Lysistrata, and started to haul the hook so we could reset in a land far, far away from derelict vessels when the phone rang. It was SeaTow.

"Are you OK? Are you free? There is another band of storms coming in about 2 hours." GO AND EAT MY YELLOW CARD FOR BREAKFAST!

We were able to save ourselves. BUT at considerable risk to MY life and to my vessel. Boarding a derelict vessel and then having your own bow roller coming straight for your head is not a good idea. Having some assistance IS. If they had come out, the exercise would have been exactly the same, except we would have transferred the load to the SeaTow vessel while getting it unwrapped. Easey peasey, and I would be writing glowing things right now...

Note: the system had passed, there were no weather issues at that time. Not an excuse - and not one they used. Note: another system was coming thru - IN 2 HOURS. Again, not an excuse.

Finally - we redropped the hook and then decided to see if we could seek shelter at the MegaDock. 4000 feet of facing dock space and hundreds of slips and there was NO room. My wife called back and said we needed an emergency slip and miraculously they found 40' at the very end. Barely. Our stern stuck out a bit, but we were good and all is and was well. Lysistrata has a couple of chunks missing on her bow, but lifelines and rigging are all intact. Derelict vessel is on their own - sorry, just not my fault. Did report incident and everyone said to consider myself lucky that there was no damage to my vessel.

Moral of the story. If you get yourself into trouble, you may have to get yourself out. Period. These tow services and even the Coasties are hard pressed to come out when it is not a "real" emergency. I can assure you that if my bow roller had knocked a hole in my head while trying to self rescue, I would now be the official owner of SeaTow and that all C25 and C250 owners would get free assistance for life. That is if I was either A: still alive, or B: still able to think enough to file the freaking paperwork.

Sten

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Response Posted - 05/12/2008 :  08:10:01  Show Profile
DAMN! Sten you lead an interesting life!

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Response Posted - 05/12/2008 :  09:21:44  Show Profile
Thanks for that! It's worthy of a page in Sail or Soundings--you should submit it! Of course, they get some ad revenue from Sea Tow... they might want to edit it to "our towing service".

I think I had that same poisoning once, from lobster salad--felt like my skin was on fire, my head was in a vise, and my entire digestive system was trying to get out! I couldn't imagine adding your experience to that!

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Response Posted - 05/12/2008 :  09:38:13  Show Profile
We had an experience with Sea Tow. We were anchored on the 50' Prout catamaran in the Gulf of Mexico in 60' of water with a 45lb Bruce, 45' of 1" chain and 360' of 3/4" rode. It blew 40 knots all night and was "only" 30 the next morning. We stripped the gears on the windlass trying to weigh anchor! Called the CG and asked them to contact Sea Tow. The CG called back and said that Sea Tow would not come out to us as we were 36 miles offshore....the Coasties put out a Pan,Pan,Pan for us and an ocean-going tug came by about 30 minutes later, threw us a line and towed us forward slowly as we manually hauled in the anchor. (No charge!)

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Response Posted - 05/12/2008 :  10:24:07  Show Profile
When you look up, do you notice a big black cloud overhead?

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Response Posted - 05/12/2008 :  11:32:47  Show Profile
Thanx for the great read Sten.

In a previous thread about tools aboard, I listed an axe as a vital peice of equipment...I got the immediate impression from your story that an axe or a chain saw might have been useful to disengage the motor mount from the offending 'barge'.


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Ren, Wow, what an intense story. I have heard others not happy with towing services. I called once while my c250 was parallel to a sea wall which it was slapping against. Long story short, I got help from a passerby and the tow service never showed up after 45 minutes.
You should send in this story to Sail. They have article, What I did right/wrong. It would make for very good reading and learning.
Looks like you did more right. Just wonder also how many others on this forum have had a bad experience with towing services.
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Response Posted - 05/12/2008 :  15:10:14  Show Profile
Sten,
How long will you be in Charleston? It is my homeport. My boat is moored out there near the derelicts. I am out of town and heard about the storm. Is there any chance you could dink over and take a peak at my boat for me? It is the only C250 out there. It is upstream of the first bridge (between the fixed bridge and the two draw bridges) and on the other side of California Dreaming (great Long Island Iced Teas btw. Also try their salads.) IT is or was the third boat up stream of the inlet for the marina on the left side of the river as you head upstream. If you get a chance and could run check on Cornbread for me it would do a ton for my peace of mind. Email me or call me if you need more specifics with location and also let me know how long you will be here. I should be home in a few days.

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Response Posted - 05/13/2008 :  06:12:29  Show Profile
<font size="1">Quote: "When you look up, do you notice a big black cloud overhead?".</font id="size1">

No actually, spend any time out here and something, somewhere will happen which is why preparedness is so important.

BUT..... I had a visit from our local SeaTow operator here at the end of the MegaDock yesterday. (Mind you that he had to walk over a mile to get all the way here.) I was immediately warned after making his acquaintance that SeaTow was pursuing options to hold me accountable for my post here regarding their services or the lack thereof.

So under duress I would like to modify my original post slightly by making sure everyone knows that the quotation marks surrounding the comment about making tai tea and taking up yoga were in the wrong spot. The post should have read: <b>[red]"Captain, calm down, these situations can be stressful I know."[/red<font color="blue">]</b> end quote.....<b>but if you can just relax and take some deep breaths, make some tai tea, and do some yoga, you too can qualify to be a SeaTow captain/FRANCHISE OWNER.</b></font id="blue"> My thoughts are reflected in blue and should NOT be attributed to the SeaTow Captain.

Furthermore, as a publisher with an extensive errors and omissions policy, I am sure my insurance company would appreciate the following disclaimer:

<b><font color="purple">The incident reported here is and was an accurate portrayal of an actual event as perceived by the author and the author's wife, and may contain inaccuracies. The author understands that SeaTow tapes calls for their protection and that there has been a report that my account of the dialogue was somewhat inaccurate. The author apologizes for not having more sophisticated equipment on board such that we too could verify the exact dialogue, however please be advised that the "gist" of the dialogue was and is correct as reported.</font id="purple"></b>

Please note that the following conversation was witnessed by several of my fellow cruisers at the dock and that the author has taken EVERY precaution to make sure of the accuracy by validating the conversation with the witnesses.

The SeaTow Captain was clearly agitated and as stated threatened me with legal action for my post on this website. I proceeded to engage in a discussion - normally I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent - wherein we discussed the finer points of this incident. At one point the SeaTow captain referred to cruisers anchoring out as being in the "Ghetto." He further stated something to the effect of, if you can't afford a dock, etc. you shouldn't be out here! My fellow cruisers who were at the dock noted that there were two Island Packet 48, several new BendyToys, a Pearson 424 ketch, and several blue water vessels in the anchorage - needless to say we were all taken aback by this comment.

The SeaTow Captain and I discussed the matter at length and I believe we shook hands and resolved to be as amicable about this incident and my rendition of the events as possible. We both agreed that there was a communication breakdown on both sides. I was exasperated after the long wait for the 800 number people to patch us to the local Captain and just wasn't interested in small talk. As noted by the SeaTow Captain, my account of this incident posted here did not include the two or three expletives used in the discussion. We never indicated that we would pay regardless of whether this was a covered incident or not and he never offered assistance for $. We never indicated that I as the Captain of my vessel had been sick and was not in the best of condition to handle the incident. Apparently some of these factors would have made a difference.

The SeaTow Captain indicated that he thought that since we were in the "Ghetto" - an expression which I do understand to be offensive to many, including myself, for a whole host of reasons - we would just hang up if he told us how much our "UnCovered" incident would cost. I of course ALWAYS carry significant quantities of green stuff for incidents like this and you could play a pretty good card game with the number of credit cards in my wallet. This probably surprised him since most people in the "Ghetto" don't walk around with $500,000 in credit and enough cash for a couple of vessel assists at full price.

He did agree that the incident was a bit dangerous and understood the fact that I was hard pressed to leave my primary anchor with the knowledge that it may never be retrieved and that a more significant storm was approaching, AND that there was potentially NO ROOM at the dock. While we have 6 anchors and multiple rodes in addition to our primary, it would not have been prudent to rely on those in view of the pending storm. The suggestion regarding the axe is a very good one. Note: I did throw it into reverse hoping to pull the motor mount off of the derelict boat, an axe might have made that job a bit easier.

Positives: As a serial entrepreneur/business owner myself I understand this guy. He runs a good operation, has a good reputation, and will trespass on the MegaDock, walk over a mile and confront me in front of my peers and threaten me with legal action for comments posted on this site. I kinda like him. Why? Because he DOES care! His call back to see if we were OK and to warn us of the second storm band coming in two hours WAS the RIGHT THING TO DO. I am sorry that at the moment I did not appreciate the sincerity of his actions because of my own frustration with the situation.

Furthermore, he took matters into his own hands, probably against the wishes of corporate. NICELY! Corporate was CC'd in an email missive which was virtually identical to my original post and they DID NOT attempt to contact me in any way.

And finally, SeaTow Captain respects and is knowledgeable about this site. Who woulda thunk? He wanted to set things straight because he is concerned about what the newbies and others think about the services provided by SeaTow. OK, fair enough.

I'll wrap up with the following. I never advocated a mass exodus from SeaTow, nor a boycott, nor anything else like that. As a matter of fact, I admire SeaTow for providing us with another option other than TowBoat US. I always fly the underdog airline. Why? It is not in my interest to have the number of carriers reduced and my options limited. SeaTow is growing and their geographic coverage is pretty extensive. I encourage everyone to consider the human element in this account before making a decision regarding this incident and company in question.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming. How about that there Cetol?

sten

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How about that there Coury? Hope his boat is OK.

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Response Posted - 05/13/2008 :  09:04:18  Show Profile
Sten, did you get a chance to look upriver at SV Cornbread. It is in a the nicer part of the ghetto. LOL I get back to town on Thursday and I suppose there is nothing that can be done at the moment if anything ha sgone awy. If you get a chance to peak in on her,please let me know. You can PM me and I will send you my cell phone if you wish. If you will be in town a few more days I can bring you some good SC food or take you to lunch.

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Response Posted - 05/13/2008 :  09:57:59  Show Profile
sorry... did not forget about cornbreade.. our dink was not in the water this morning when I read the post, but I did ask a fellow curb creature ghetto sailor who was staying to go up and check on her. He didn't call to say anything was bad, so I assume she is ok. Lysistrata is beating to the northerlies today and we left this morning. sorry I couldn't check on her personally...

sten - from my crackberry 14 km offshore

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Response Posted - 05/13/2008 :  10:24:28  Show Profile
That reminds me... I need to read the fine print on my "unlimited" (but obviously LIMITED) TowboatUS agreement. They declined to assist us once--too stormy and too far away (was their reply to the Coast Guard)... We had engine trouble, storm approaching, trying to get into an unfamiliar harbor and marina in a brand-new-to-us C-25 (delivering it home). The CG in turn suggested I call for a Good Samaritan. There were absolutely no Samaritans out there--good or bad. We managed to sail to the dock, and notified the CG that all was well. While the boat was new to us, fortunately I wasn't new to sailing.

So, now the C-25/250/25 forum is "fair and balanced".

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Response Posted - 05/13/2008 :  21:56:44  Show Profile
A good honest dust-up between wronged parties.

Can we get a Sten-Cam on Lysistrata? I don't want to miss anything.

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Response Posted - 05/15/2008 :  06:47:28  Show Profile
<font size="1">Quote: "A good honest dust-up between wronged parties.
Can we get a Sten-Cam on Lysistrata? I don't want to miss anything."</font id="size1">

While spending a couple of days offshore - I came up with the perfect analogy.

Imagine calling AAA because you had a flat on a winding road with barely a shoulder - and having the dispatcher tell you how to change the tire but not send a truck.

Sten cam. Excellent idea. Ever think that your life has to be recorded on camera somewhere because sometimes the events are so unreal that even you can't comprehend the odds?

Years ago I thought of installing cams in my offices. Sorta like starring in your own sitcom. There are guest stars, clients - some cool others villains, the regulars i.e. the employees, and some off and on stars such as vendors who may or not pop in for every episode.

Stuff happens. Things break. Boats drag. My wife meets hot girls who come over for beverages!

BTW - all but 2 boats departing Charleston the other day went up the ICW. We saw a couple boats turn back because the conditions initially were ok but uncomfortable for those not "salty" enough. Those experiences including the discussions between my wife and I regarding our mutual "Go NO Go" policy would be fascinating on cam I'm sure. My wife is saying, "We're good!" and I'm like "Uh, yeah... but why did SV PowderPuff come back in?" Who should I call? Ted Turner?

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Sten cam.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
And of course, if it were live on the net, then everyone would need a disclaimer before coming alongside and behave really well!


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Response Posted - 05/15/2008 :  08:53:07  Show Profile
Sten, As I said earlier in this thread "You lead an interesting life" A Sten-cam <u>IS</u> a great idea but then we would miss the pleasure of your delightfully, descriptive prose.

The denigration, by the Sea Tow captain, of the anchorage area and those who reside there as a Ghetto, is one of the things that is wrong with boating and a large part of society. The concept that one has to flaunt their money before their self worth is deemed worthy of salvation. The choice of someone, who has ample cash in his pocket,to not flaunt every penny he has (or can borrow)comes as suprise to far too many people.

Congratulations once more on handeling a difficult, frustrating and maddening situation with style and grace.

Now about those stray, thirsty beauties that your wife keeps bringing back to the boat.... This brings me back to the Sten-cam.

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Renzo,
You call that style and grace? I agree that I hopefully extracated meself from harm - that is until there is a knock on the hull.

all who said anything about Hunters - you are next. I heard they are getting tired of being the underboat. Damn... sign me up, I just said it too.

Just where is Attorney Frank from Kansas when you need him?

As far as the thirsty maidens go, well all I can say is that there are ooops, ups, and downs out here. My - age appropriate wife, unlike some - has a way with sail trim and talent search. It just happens. We don't need the Shady Lady most days for e-tainment.

Renzo... when you coming out? I might need a tow when I run aground - can you help kedge off from the dink even if there are bronze goddesses floating about?

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by redviking</i>
<br />Renzo,

As far as the thirsty maidens go, well all I can say is that there are ooops, ups, and downs out here. My - age appropriate wife, unlike some - has a way with sail trim and talent search. It just happens. We don't need the Shady Lady most days for e-tainment.

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This reminds me of the boat that was dropping the hook at the beach on Toronto Island. It had a number of entrepreneurial single women aboard (if you know what I mean). Seems they'd make appointments ahead of time, have the "gents" swim out from the beach, and then go out on Lake Ontario to make waves.

The Toronto Harbour Police spent a fair amount of time last sumer following this boat around, and all though the policework made it onto the radio many times, I never heard of a bust. I wonder if different rules apply once the boat gets far enough out, or into US waters.

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in my single days... I had a couple of adventures in your fair city, albeit hmmm.not quite like that.

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Sten, Communication problem? And you shook hands!! I would have shot the guy. Unless I missed something, you explained your situation in great detail. What was the misunderstanding. And regarding him suing you for what you said on this forum, that's crap. You should sue. What am I missing?
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by redviking</i>
<br />Renzo,
You call that style and grace? I agree that I hopefully extracated meself from harm - that is until there is a knock on the hull.
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Any time there is no blood involved and the and the use of the "F" word is kept to a minimum qualifies as poise in my book. But then I'm easily impressed by big boats and the wealthy people who own them.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Renzo... when you coming out? I might need a tow when I run aground - can you help kedge off from the dink even if there are bronze goddesses floating about?
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Planning to drive to Fla. this winter for an extended visit with relatives. If your on the hook down there at tne same time maybe we can get together. And if you need a tow I'll haul on the bow line until you are free, but after that I'm going swimming among the floating goddesses.

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Prospector</i>
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I never heard of a bust. I wonder if different rules apply once the boat gets far enough out, or into US waters.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

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Yes, the rules do change as follows: <i>(Reg 7-69.1 section 4)... vessel that has attained a position 5 miles or more from any shore line shall have all female crew, officers and passengers arrange their sailing attire (or lack thereof) to prominantly display their endowments (bust). The male officers,crew and/or passengers are exempt from this requirement and are strongly encouraged to stay below at all times except as required by the safety of the vessel. </i>

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<font size="1">Quote: "Sten, Communication problem? And you shook hands!! I would have shot the guy. Unless I missed something, you explained your situation in great detail. What was the misunderstanding. And regarding him suing you for what you said on this forum, that's crap. You should sue. What am I missing?
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Steve, your instincts mimic the ones I was feeling when confronted at the dock in front of everyone. However, sometimes it is better to retreat and regroup than to "pull the ears of a mad dog" - Danish expression roughly translated.

I was given a book by a good friend many years ago called the <b><i>I Ching or Book of Changes</i></b>. The I Ching came to mind when Mr. SeaTow was on the dock.

<i>"It is inherent in the design of life that forces of darkness and disruption come into prominence from time to time. This hexagram indicates that this is such a time and advises you to respond by quietly retreating. To struggle or resist in anger now is to add fuel to the fire of negativity which threatens to consume you.

The superior person accepts that there is a natural ebb and flow between the forces of light and dark in the world. Wisdom lies not in resisting these movements, but in responding to them appropriately. Just as a plant which sprouts in the dead of winter is doomed, and one which sprouts in spring flourishes, so it is with us. Success and prosperity accrue to those who advance in times of light and retreat in times of darkness. To retreat now is to benefit, in the end, from the changing tides.

Retreat is not the same thing as surrender, capitulation, or abandonment, which are desperate and unsatisfying measures. Neither is it characterized by a hardening into angry or punitive emotions. It is instead an acceptance and a choice: we calmly accept that the energies of the moment are against us, and we wisely choose to withdraw into the safety of stillness. In this dignified and balanced manner we protect ourselves from negative influences and arrive rested in a more beneficial hour."</i>

Renzo - I have the same ColRegs rule book on board SV Lysistrata.

We do intend to return to Florida next fall for winter, so perhaps we will see you then.

Sten

DPO C25 #3220 "Zephyr", SR, FK
SV Lysistrata - C&C 39 - Wrightsville Beach NC

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