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quilombo
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Initially Posted - 06/06/2008 : 23:04:51

hello again,
and yet another question,
I currently do not have a roller furler, just the standard jib in a bag on the deck, which I hoist up as you all know
my question is ,can I buy a roller furler system and still use my front stay as it is, or do I have to take down my front stay, do they make one that goes over the front stay, and do I have to replace the sail
am thinking about it and not sure how it works

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quilombo
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Response Posted - 06/07/2008 : 09:27:47

wow, must be a tough question, 33 read it , and no answer,,,,oh boy

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 06/07/2008 : 10:00:12

My CDI furler slides over the forestay. Your sail would, at least have to be modified. Depending on the age of the sail, it might be more cost effective to simply replace. This is a major expense for a guy that might go back to powerboats next year. Keep your hank-ons.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 06/07/2008 : 10:33:23

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by John Russell
 My CDI furler slides over the forestay.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Most of them do. You can probably find some discussions about different brands (Harken, Hood, Shaefer, CDI, Profurl, etc.) using Search. A few guys here, Jim Baumgart for one, have had furlers that are hoisted like a second forestay--they might be useful for a drifter, but not for a sail you might want to be able to reef.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 06/07/2008 : 15:37:46

Guglielmo, I grew up in NJ, Morristown. Fond memories of seeing Bruce Springsteen at bars and at college parties before he and the E Street Band became famous. I also miss the NJ shore where we would summer on Long Beach Island.

Back to boats, if you are considering this a "trial" season, I would echo what John said. You will only get back a fraction of the investment you make in new equipment if you end up selling "Don't Panic." Maybe sail with what you have and make sure this hobby is a keeper.

I have a CDI furler and it does, indeed, slip onto the forestay. You need a toggle at the top of the forestay so you'd need to see if you have that already. Sails can be modified but I believe the result is not as good as a sail designed and built for the furler.

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dblitz
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Response Posted - 06/07/2008 : 20:07:50

Furlers cost money that it sounds like you don't want to spend now.
A furler is the first upgrade I would get for my boat. On the other hand, if you don't mind going to the bow to stuff the jib in the bag (as in, you always sail with company) a hank-on is ok. On the other hand, if the wind really comes up and you douse your main and it keeps coming up, even though the shape of a 135 or 150 gets altered by a furler making it not too efficient, the furler is very much appreciated because you don't have to go forward to stuff the jib. On the other hand, I think you get it by now.
By the way, don't underestimate the beauty and power of our perpetual motion ( when there's wind) machines.
I had the pleasure of being out on the Hudson last weekend and I saw 2 motorboats. Yes, sailing equipment is expensive but at least it will last you a number of years. Powerboat equipment is expensive too and just think how much use they'll get if the Enrons of the oil industry keep playing with the price of oil and gas goes to say, $ 8 or $ 10 a gallon. They'll be using powerboats to start reefs off the Jersey shore, but you'll still be sailing.

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quilombo
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Response Posted - 06/07/2008 : 22:31:07

daniel,
why does it sound to you that I dont want to spend money on a furler??
MMMM? lemme read that again, No,, I dont think I mentioned I didnt want to spend money, ,,,anyway,
just was wondering if I needed to replaced my front stay and sail,
I did some researh and I guess it depends on what system I buy, either way Im up against about 1200, from what I see
thanks for the inputs to all

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 06/07/2008 : 22:49:19

I bought my ProFurl SnapFurl furler from the North Sails loft in Detroit for $650. They modified my two year old 150 genny - trimmed it down to 135 and set it up for the furler for $450. The extrusion for the furler fits over the existing forstay without modifiction and is much more streamlined and lighter then the CDI version.

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Jefffriday
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Response Posted - 06/08/2008 : 09:25:42

If you do get a furler (I would not be without one with our unpredictable winds) think carefully about your sail choices. I had one of me hank on sails redone to work on my furler (the one that came with the boat was a radial cut Mylar sail that was de-laminating and not any good) and it cost me every bit as much, from Sailcare as the new, from Ullman, 150 I bought for this year... bummer, should have asked first, I just did not think it would cost that much to sew on the necessary piece. Live and learn and pay...

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