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Cbucki1
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Initially Posted - 07/10/2008 :  14:22:05  Show Profile
Hey Folks,

My boat came with a roller furler - a luxury compared to my old 22 that didn't have a roller.

I am looking to take the sail off the roller this weekend just to check it over and was wondering how the heck I can do so.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

CB

chuck buck
Summit Oasis
78 Catalina 25
Denver Colorado


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John Russell
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Response Posted - 07/10/2008 :  14:57:54  Show Profile
It'd be helpful to know what kind of furler you have.

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Cbucki1
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Response Posted - 07/10/2008 :  16:12:17  Show Profile
I have no idea what brand it is.
I assumed they all worked the same.

Any help would be greatly apprecaited.

Thx

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 07/10/2008 :  17:21:51  Show Profile
Taking down a roller furling jib is generally done the same as taking down a hanked-on jib. You release the jib halliard, and the sail should fall to the deck. You might need to pull it down at the luff, if it doesn't fall all the way by itself.

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Cbucki1
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Response Posted - 07/10/2008 :  17:24:34  Show Profile
thats what I thought but there are no halyards for the gib - its just up there..

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 07/10/2008 :  17:36:23  Show Profile
I'll admit I haven't seen all the types of roller furlers ever manufactured, but I never saw one that didn't use a halliard to raise the jib.

Every factory stock Catalina 25 had two halliards. The halliard on the starboard side of the mast was for the mainsail, and the halliard on the port side of the mast was for the jib. Many owners ran their halliards aft to the cockpit, after they bought their boats. The jib halliard might be cleated there, instead of being cleated on the mast.

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Cbucki1
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Response Posted - 07/10/2008 :  17:38:42  Show Profile
I wish it was that easy.

I have two halyards - one for the main, and a second that should be used for the gib, but instead it is used to hoist the sailcover for the gib when furled..

Mystery eh?

CB

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 07/10/2008 :  20:03:04  Show Profile
Sounds like you have a CDI furler which uses an internal halyard to raise the headsail. The internal halyard is part of the furler.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 07/10/2008 :  21:37:18  Show Profile
I think Gary's right. I have a CDI furler and the halyard is indeed internal to the foil in the slot opposite the sail. It should have a length of line about 2-3 feet long exposed. You need to be sure to attach a messenger line to this halyard so that when you lower the sail, you won't lose the line to the top of the halyard. Once you detach the halyard from the furler drum, simply slide the sail down. By the way, a little SailKote helps with hoisting it back up.

Here's a link to the [url="http://www.sailcdi.com/sailpdf/FF2%20manual%204.04.pdf"]CDI Furler Installation/Operating Instructions[/url].

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Cbucki1
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Response Posted - 07/11/2008 :  09:40:03  Show Profile
This is awesome! Thanks so very much guys!

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 07/12/2008 :  00:16:29  Show Profile
I second John's opinion - pix would help make it certain. Best advice is go slow, it's a bit of a puzzle, but keep a sharp eye as you haul the gib down and you'll suss it out.

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Jay Schkloven
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Response Posted - 07/19/2008 :  09:43:42  Show Profile
If it is a CDI you need to attach a messenger line at the bottom so that you can raise the sail when you put it back on. Also take a camera and photograph the setup. That way you will have a record. I also use a permanent magic marker to identify the bottom and top of the sail. Next season you do not want to put it up and take it down because it is installed wrong. Also mark the lines with marker so you know where they attached to the sail. That way the length of the line will be the same.

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tinob
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Response Posted - 07/20/2008 :  11:37:32  Show Profile
I have an "ANTIQUE" CDI furler,(circa 1983),(a model 3B), and when taking down the jib I sew together the internal halyard to a messenger halyard of the same length BUTT TO BUTT. Later messengers from CDI popped out of the furler and didn't work. Before using this arrangement I spray all lines with SAILKOTE lube, just to make the job less laborious. Save the messenger and label it before stowing.

Val on Calista, #3936, Patchogue, N.Y.

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crispi
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Response Posted - 07/25/2008 :  09:22:24  Show Profile

I had good results by de-coring about a foot of the internal halyard, pulling it out of the slot and tying a bowline to attach a messanger to. Not sure it's the recommended method, but it works great.

Bob
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tinob
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Response Posted - 07/25/2008 :  10:07:27  Show Profile
BOB... the messenger that CDI sent me sounds like what you've accomplished by partially decoring your halyard except the one they sent me kept popping out of the groove. I mentioned this to the folks at CDI and they had no solution for me other than returning their product for a full reimbursement. Not bad BUT, not good either. I continue to butt stitch the messenger to the halyard and save the messenger for the next go-round.

Val on Calista # 3936, Patchogue, N.Y.

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