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Jonathan Cuff
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Initially Posted - 08/11/2008 :  13:48:21  Show Profile
Hi guys

Anyone seen one of these yet? I thought the market was kind of going away from this type of boat slightly, but I suppose Hunter know what they're doing. I guess it's a bigger Mac.....

Cheers Jonathan

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Jonathan Cuff
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Response Posted - 08/11/2008 :  13:49:01  Show Profile
Sorry here is the link http://huntermarine.com/Models/27Edge/27EDGEIndex.html


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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 08/11/2008 :  14:17:31  Show Profile
While it wouldn't be my choice, Mac has sold a lot of those MAC26X's.

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piseas
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Response Posted - 08/11/2008 :  14:24:45  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
Wouldnt even be on my list of choices! Wonder if taking over MacGregor or now competitor. Dont really care. But have seen alot of Macgregor 26x for sale. Cheesy looking thing. Personally dont care for either boat.
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 08/11/2008 :  15:19:18  Show Profile
Hunter answers Mac! ...and raised the stakes by 25hp... Wonder how long till Frank joins in?

"...at home sailing the high seas..." Ya, right... with a CE classification of C (inshore). I'd stay <i>way</i> inshore--like on a medium-to-small lake.

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 08/11/2008 :  15:29:17  Show Profile
Sort of adds a new take on the definition of "motor-sailing." When I was looking at buying a sailboat and before we bought our C25, I was searching the internet a lot. I could not believe how may Mac 26 or Mac 26x's were for sale. I took it to mean that once purchased, it wasn't liked very much.

Although there is a group out there that swears by them.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 08/11/2008 :  15:45:06  Show Profile
BTW, has anybody tried to get up on a ski behind a 5500 lb. boat pushed by a 75 hp engine? Take a deep breath--it's gonna be a while before you see air!

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piseas
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Response Posted - 08/11/2008 :  15:45:20  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
Dont know about the new Hunter, but I hear the MacGregor x26 is not a very good sailing vessel. The only advantage in my neck of the woods is getting over to Catalina Island in an hour with the x26 vs 4-6 hrs under sail. But whats the rush. You can call in advance and reserve a mooring as long as you are under 26'.
I am sure most of you have heard the saying, "With a power boat, you are always rushing to get there, in a sail boat, you are already there!
Enough said.
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SEAN
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Response Posted - 08/11/2008 :  16:04:10  Show Profile
probably $40,000 and in 4 years would be happy to get $10 for it .
dont invest the college fund

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At Ease
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Response Posted - 08/11/2008 :  16:41:44  Show Profile
I read a report on the old Hunter 'motor/sailor.' Bottom line was that it was not a very good sailboat and not a very good power boat.

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SEAN
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Response Posted - 08/11/2008 :  17:05:56  Show Profile
the motor gets to be worth more than the boat .
its rated for a 75hp !

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SEAN
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Response Posted - 08/11/2008 :  17:19:19  Show Profile
they should make them look like ski boats w/sails , now that i would buy !

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 08/11/2008 :  20:06:05  Show Profile
There are a lot of MacGregors at my lake. This weekend there were 8 26Xs and 4Ms along with a 5 or 6 of the older style models. There were also three C25s and two C250s....anyway, two of the MacGregors were towing wakeboarders and or tubes. They weren't going very fast but they looked like they were having fun.
There is a 26M with a75HP OB on my lake.

I'm suprised by the weight of the Hunter, but I think that is a good feature. The MacGregors are far too light for sailing or any kind of rough weather. I helped two MacGregors dock this weekend in 15knots of wind - it was frightening. Also very impressive the way a C25 just eases up to the dock and sits there while the Mac bounces around like a beach ball.

Having been around and surrounded by MacGregors I have a new respect for them. They are a good choice for this little lake, when the weather is right.


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stampeder
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Response Posted - 08/11/2008 :  20:20:52  Show Profile
Also, saw a C&C Mega 30 on a trailer at the Marina. Looks like a cool boat, I wonder how they sail?

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redviking
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Response Posted - 08/11/2008 :  20:43:49  Show Profile
Seems sorta sad that newbies these days will get the standard enclosed head, but no bulkheads or any old school accoutremonts... Then they will go water skiing and forget that they are supposed to be on a sailboat. Please Frank - for the love of all who embrace wind and the sea, DO NOT build one of these horrible things! You could not pay me enough money to sail on one! Accident waiting to happen in my opinion.

Sten

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smoken
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Response Posted - 08/11/2008 :  21:43:01  Show Profile
Having owned two WB-SK Hunters, We are really happy that we made the change to the C25. We never did like the open look or feel. They did both sail ok, though not great. This is the first I've seen of this new one, I heard it was coming. I think they really goofed on this one and If I was told right it will bo in the mid 40K range or more depending on the motor.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 08/11/2008 :  22:13:20  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by stampeder</i>
<br />Also, saw a C&C Mega 30... I wonder how they sail?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Like they look: Fast!

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piseas
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Response Posted - 08/11/2008 :  22:34:16  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
looks like a [url="http://kijiji.ebayimg.com/i22/02/k/000/7b/7d/737e_20.JPG?set_id=1C4000"]fun[/url] boat.
Steve A

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 08/12/2008 :  00:20:17  Show Profile
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Originally posted by stampeder

Also, saw a C&C Mega 30... I wonder how they sail?

Like they look: Fast!


The fellow who just bought my old outboard just bought one. After he told me about it, I looked it up on the web - sounds like they don't go to weather very well, but they are rockets on every other point of sail. His is in "something River" on the Chesapeake and he needed the engine to move it 80 miles south to somewhere near Annapolis on Thursday. He drove from Maryland friday night, picked up the engine saturday morning and put it on the boat on sunday. He really wanted that motor. He let me know that it worked well, started immediately, and he was happy with it

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 08/12/2008 :  07:01:14  Show Profile
The way I figure it, a powerboat with a mast and sail will not do well in either category. That said however, it looks like the Hunter will be a very comfortable weekend cruiser. Not only does the Hunter carry more HP, it is also 2 ft. longer than the Mac 26X.
We have 2 of the 26X's at our marina, and the owners seem to like them very much. One of them had a baby at the beginning of last summer, and the husband decided to just leave the mast off and just use it as a motor cruiser for that summer. I guess they were a little apprehensive about sailing with an infant. After our daughter was born (27 years ago), we had her sailing after about a month. The baby carrier fit nicely on the floor of our C22.

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Stardog
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Response Posted - 08/12/2008 :  11:43:58  Show Profile
I'm not impressed, the target market for this boat is people who don't know anything about sailing and probably don't know much about power boats either. It's ugly, you can bet it handles like crap and I would really hate to be aboard in heavy wind or a storm.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 08/12/2008 :  14:13:47  Show Profile
Like the MacGregors, these are easy to launch and retrieve, fair weather boats for lakes.
For the right application and for many many people, these new Hunters and the Mac X + M are good boats.
I watch elderly people launch and retrieve these boats in a few minutes without getting their rear tires wet. There is a guy at my lake that launches his M with a Nissan Sentra!
I'd rather see a bunch of Hunters than those &*@#%ing wake board boats with their stadium stereos and lunatics at the wheel.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 08/13/2008 :  06:34:00  Show Profile
My favorite Hunter http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,401324,00.html#

Guess John edwards didn't know about boating!

sten

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piseas
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Response Posted - 08/13/2008 :  11:51:29  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
Isn't she a little long in the tooth!
Steve A

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 08/13/2008 :  13:32:12  Show Profile
Obviously, there is a market for these hybrid sail/power boats otherwise no one would be building them. As they have done so in the past with other market/design trends and if there is money to be made, I suspect Catalina will follow suit and we'll soon see C250's with a 90hp outboard option.

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Jonathan Cuff
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Response Posted - 08/13/2008 :  14:05:15  Show Profile
I often wonder what we will get if/when we move on from our C25. I tried a 250 for a couple of months but really didn't like it compared to the 25. I just prefer the more traditional design and performance aspects of the C25. The C28 looks really nice but is a lot more money than a C250 and I'm sure very soon it will be restyled at the very least to look like the new 309 'family' as has happened with many other models. It would make sense to wait a bit.

I quite like the look of the Hunter 27 (it's had some good reviews in the UK) but would love to see Catalina do something in the 25-30 ft range that would make sense as a progression from the C25.

I've thought about C30's but they're just a bit too big for me.

Cheers Jonathan


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